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Post by Erbes on Mar 26, 2014 12:40:03 GMT -5
i mean i get it them some guys bust irl but not 70% yup. all i'm saying is we're not doing enough about it and it makes rebuilding a shitty option when the league already massively favors teams who can spend to avoid rebuilding. i'm talking about adding an additional PD reversal for 25 and under and being told that's throwing more wood on the fire. wtf. Why do you have to completely rebuild? Florida has a small market and Ashes makes it work. I think Montreal's market is smallish and he makes it work. Oakland's market is smaller I think and he just won a World Series. You aren't going to be able to win a World Series with a $50M payroll. You need to stockpile cash and go for it knowing you're going to lose money. That's just the nature of the league.
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Post by Erbes on Mar 26, 2014 12:42:45 GMT -5
It sounds like you're more upset about player salaries being so high more than your market.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 12:43:25 GMT -5
what are you talking about?
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Post by greeme on Mar 26, 2014 12:43:42 GMT -5
Greeme has been in the league for a month and he's an OOTP expert. no but you aren't the type to really check stuff if broph says he did then i would believe him
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Post by greeme on Mar 26, 2014 12:44:15 GMT -5
Do I have 5 years of research? No. It's common knowledge though that PDs happen so that the talent level in the league doesn't get out of whack. common knowledge ??
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Post by greeme on Mar 26, 2014 12:44:38 GMT -5
i guess that i am not common enough
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Post by Erbes on Mar 26, 2014 12:44:50 GMT -5
what are you talking about? If player salaries weren't so out of countrol then you'd be able to compete.
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Post by Erbes on Mar 26, 2014 12:45:42 GMT -5
Do I have 5 years of research? No. It's common knowledge though that PDs happen so that the talent level in the league doesn't get out of whack. common knowledge ?? Lol yeah for guys who have been in OOTP leagues for years know that PDs aren't as random as they appear. Sure they're random to they happen to, but they happen because of talent levels. It's like a checks and balance for the league.
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Post by Erbes on Mar 26, 2014 12:49:59 GMT -5
I'm also done arguing about this. I've made my point. Spencer has backed me on it. If you want extra PD reversals, make a poll, and put it to a vote.
If you want come up with a plan to level markets go for it and put it to a vote.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 12:50:01 GMT -5
i don't like the fact that spending is so essential to winning. you're citing oakland and montreal, two of the biggest spenders. most teams can't support that kind of payroll, and they shouldn't have to in order to win. i won 95+ four years in a row and couldn't spend that kind of money without losing cash and needing to rebuild. my problem is that you don't care about spending disparities (no shit, you have the yankees and have spent your 10+ seasons spending like high hell and have never once rebuilt), but you're completely opposed to the idea of making rebuilding a little bit easier. and your "throwing wood on the fire" argument is pure shit. the game is trying to balance out talent so it destroys young players? nah, all that does is protect the good teams against competition. no one has built anything through the draft in the last five seasons.
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Post by Erbes on Mar 26, 2014 12:52:28 GMT -5
i don't like the fact that spending is so essential to winning. you're citing oakland and montreal, two of the biggest spenders. most teams can't support that kind of payroll, and they shouldn't have to in order to win. i won 95+ four years in a row and couldn't spend that kind of money without losing cash and needing to rebuild. my problem is that you don't care about spending disparities (no shit, you have the yankees and have spent your 10+ seasons spending like high hell and have never once rebuilt), but you're completely opposed to the idea of making rebuilding a little bit easier. and your "throwing wood on the fire" argument is pure shit. the game is trying to balance out talent so it destroys young players? nah, all that does is protect the good teams against competition. no one has built anything through the draft in the last five seasons. I did rebuild though. Traded Jeter, Posada, Williams, etc. for prospects. That's how I got Duchs, Furcal, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 12:53:17 GMT -5
I'm also done arguing about this. I've made my point. Spencer has backed me on it. If you want extra PD reversals, make a poll, and put it to a vote. If you want come up with a plan to level markets go for it and put it to a vote. thanks jeff. i put up a poll. spence backing you up should be more like a kiss of death since he has san fran and pretends every other GM does too.
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Post by Captain America on Mar 26, 2014 13:04:19 GMT -5
Let's get something done this season instead of talking about dumb ideas and using this thread as a post pad. Here's what I'd like to see discussed: 1. Draft - I want to implement something that would be more like real life when players refuse to sign with a team. So this is how it would work in my mind. Let's say each year we have 5 players that, in real life, didn't sign the first time they were drafted. To make this easier I'll use real players from the '08 draft: Aaron Crow, Gerrit Cole, Jason Kipnis, Anthony Rendon, and Yan Gomes. These 5 players did NOT sign with the team that drafted them in 2008, their first draft. So in here I would I would assign a percentage likelihood that the player would sign or not sign, depending on where they were drafted. So Crow and Cole were in the 1st round so I'd give them a 25% chance of signing. Kipnis was in the 4th round so maybe like 50%. Rendon and Gomes were 27 and 39, so in reality the lower rounds are kind of like the 1st round and guys don't sign so they can be drafted higher the next year, so maybe like 35%. We would work them into the draft file, making them really good to studs. Right before the draft I put each player to a RNG to see if he stays in the draft. And this is where my dilemma occurs: do I take the player out before the draft or keep him in, let someone draft him, then tell them after the draft he didn't sign, and give a compensation pick for the next draft? 2. Exports - I could be inclined to give $2M for 100% exports and then work down from there. 3. Relievers to Starters - I'd like to eliminate these. Makes it harder to make drafts and it's unrealistic. I'm sure I'm forgetting something so sound off here. Please please please keep it to ideas. Nothing gets done if I have to sift through 25 pages of meaningless conversation. 1. This could be interesting, but don't overwork yourself with it. And we'd have to know which 5 guys this would apply to each season. Unless of course your plan would be to have us figure it out later on. 2. Like this a lot. 3. Meh whatever works.
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Post by Captain America on Mar 26, 2014 13:04:33 GMT -5
I'm also done arguing about this. I've made my point. Spencer has backed me on it. If you want extra PD reversals, make a poll, and put it to a vote. If you want come up with a plan to level markets go for it and put it to a vote. thanks jeff. i put up a poll. spence backing you up should be more like a kiss of death since he has san fran and pretends every other GM does too. lulz
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Post by Free Stutter! on Mar 26, 2014 13:04:45 GMT -5
I think I'm the only team with a 100mil payroll making money and not having to trade for game cash.
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Post by Bro Namath on Mar 26, 2014 13:15:30 GMT -5
pm
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Post by Erbes on Mar 26, 2014 13:17:42 GMT -5
I'm also done arguing about this. I've made my point. Spencer has backed me on it. If you want extra PD reversals, make a poll, and put it to a vote. If you want come up with a plan to level markets go for it and put it to a vote. thanks jeff. i put up a poll. spence backing you up should be more like a kiss of death since he has san fran and pretends every other GM does too. lol I was talking more about adding PD reversals will just lead to more negative PDs. But agreed.
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Post by Youth Movement on Mar 26, 2014 13:32:14 GMT -5
Draft idea sucks
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Post by Youth Movement on Mar 26, 2014 13:32:27 GMT -5
I meant sucks balls
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Post by Free Stutter! on Mar 26, 2014 14:54:55 GMT -5
love #2
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Post by If your not first your last on Mar 26, 2014 15:01:49 GMT -5
In real life I believe when a player dosent sign the team gets a pick in the next draft as compensation so I would say no to guessing on a player signing with your team but I like the other 2 changes
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Post by greeme on Mar 26, 2014 15:04:31 GMT -5
In real life I believe when a player dosent sign the team gets a pick in the next draft as compensation so I would say no to guessing on a player signing with your team but I like the other 2 changes Givw me drew plz
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Post by Spencer on Mar 26, 2014 15:14:58 GMT -5
I'm also done arguing about this. I've made my point. Spencer has backed me on it. If you want extra PD reversals, make a poll, and put it to a vote. If you want come up with a plan to level markets go for it and put it to a vote. thanks jeff. i put up a poll. spence backing you up should be more like a kiss of death since he has san fran and pretends every other GM does too. Funny.
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Post by Spencer on Mar 26, 2014 15:15:24 GMT -5
I think we should all give 2 mill a year in revenue to Aaron so hell shut the fuck about about this.
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Post by Spencer on Mar 26, 2014 15:15:36 GMT -5
I think thats a vote that would pass easily.
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