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Post by Captain America on Jun 16, 2015 17:23:18 GMT -5
2016 NL MVP Award SS David Wright - Colorado Rockies.296/.323/.635, 53 2B, 56 HR, 160 RBI, 29 BB, 108 R bbs56.net/BBSBL3/BBSBL3/Site/p1452.htmlCF Julio Enos - Colorado Rockies.292/.366/.568, 39 2B, 34 HR, 105 RBI, 67 BB, 111 R bbs56.net/BBSBL3/BBSBL3/Site/p1206.htmlRF Bradley Burnes - Colorado Rockies.300/.372/.501, 26 2B, 31 HR, 102 RBI, 69 BB, 122 R, 83 SB bbs56.net/BBSBL3/BBSBL3/Site/p880.htmlSS Hanley Ramirez - Chicago Cubs.329/.376/.646, 55 2B, 45 HR, 140 RBI, 47 BB, 140 R, 23 SB bbs56.net/BBSBL3/BBSBL3/Site/p1657.html1B Paul Goldschmidt - Chicago Cubs.317/.372/.574, 52 2B, 30 HR, 114 RBI, 52 BB, 113 R, 49 SB bbs56.net/BBSBL3/BBSBL3/Site/p502.htmlC Buster Posey - Chicago Cubs.329/.382/.492, 45 2B, 17 HR, 119 RBI, 44 BB, 88 R bbs56.net/BBSBL3/BBSBL3/Site/p3112.htmlCF Mike Trout - Oakland Athletics.332/.414/.526, 44 2B, 19 HR, 80 RBI, 80 BB, 115 R, 82 SB bbs56.net/BBSBL3/BBSBL3/Site/p3256.htmlLF Alex Gordon - San Diego Padres.268/.334/.553, 40 2B, 40 HR, 107 RBI, 57 BB, 101 R bbs56.net/BBSBL3/BBSBL3/Site/p3164.htmlSS Jose Altuve - Arizona Diamondbacks.332/.381/.474, 54 2B, 5 HR, 68 RBI, 52 BB, 117 R, 88 SB bbs56.net/BBSBL3/BBSBL3/Site/p3047.htmlSP Doug Fister - Arizona Diamondbacks26-3, 2.38 ERA, 100 K, 295.1 IP, 1.10 WHIP bbs56.net/BBSBL3/BBSBL3/Site/p3181.html
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Post by Broph on Jun 16, 2015 17:33:29 GMT -5
did you really vote for Wright Shale?
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Post by Captain America on Jun 16, 2015 17:34:30 GMT -5
did you really vote for Wright Shale? 1 of top 2 reasons why my team won 110 games this season
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Post by Broph on Jun 16, 2015 17:46:48 GMT -5
did you really vote for Wright Shale? 1 of top 2 reasons why my team won 110 games this season and? Hanley was clearly better
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Post by Captain America on Jun 16, 2015 17:48:45 GMT -5
1 of top 2 reasons why my team won 110 games this season and? Hanley was clearly better How so? No one was even close to Wright's overall run production
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Post by Captain America on Jun 16, 2015 17:49:38 GMT -5
Not to mention 56 homers, which is the most we've seen from anyone not named Miguel Cabrera in a very long time
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Post by Darell on Jun 16, 2015 18:17:20 GMT -5
Why is Fister on here lol
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Post by Steve on Jun 16, 2015 18:19:35 GMT -5
Better yet, who voted d wright
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Post by Broph on Jun 16, 2015 18:34:56 GMT -5
Better yet, who voted d wright seems pretty obvious
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Post by Broph on Jun 16, 2015 18:35:48 GMT -5
Home 78 322 100 30 0 28 84 60 15 61 .311 .337 .665 1.002 Road 77 330 93 23 0 28 76 48 14 63 .282 .308 .606 .914
Shale, that matters
as does the fact that HIS OVERALL OPS MEANS THE HR ARE IRRELEVANT
RBI is a product of the rest of the team (outside the 56 from HR), not himself, SO WHY DOES IT MATTER.
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Post by Broph on Jun 16, 2015 18:38:26 GMT -5
Hanley was worth 158.8 runs, over the course of 149 started games, (157 total) for over 1 run per game. He had an OPS of 1.022, hit 45 HR, was a sick SS defensively, and didnt play in Coors for a team that WON its division
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Post by Broph on Jun 16, 2015 18:38:52 GMT -5
you do this every season, then act like you will learn from it, only to do it again the next year
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Post by Broph on Jun 16, 2015 18:39:36 GMT -5
also, pull Trouts Steals off the page, they are worthless
fucking 67% steal rate, awful
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Post by Steve on Jun 16, 2015 18:43:42 GMT -5
There's no comparison here
Anyone that votes d wright is an idiot
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Post by Youth Movement on Jun 16, 2015 18:59:02 GMT -5
Whoever voted wright should probably be banned from future votes
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Post by Free Stutter! on Jun 16, 2015 18:59:30 GMT -5
its crazy how Hanley numbers are almost identical to his MVP Season in 2014.
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Post by Steve on Jun 16, 2015 21:45:05 GMT -5
its crazy how Hanley numbers are almost identical to his MVP Season in 2014.
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Post by Captain America on Jun 16, 2015 22:22:49 GMT -5
Why is Fister on here lol Huge part of your success
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Post by Captain America on Jun 16, 2015 22:43:33 GMT -5
Home 78 322 100 30 0 28 84 60 15 61 .311 .337 .665 1.002 Road 77 330 93 23 0 28 76 48 14 63 .282 .308 .606 .914 Shale, that matters as does the fact that HIS OVERALL OPS MEANS THE HR ARE IRRELEVANT RBI is a product of the rest of the team (outside the 56 from HR), not himself, SO WHY DOES IT MATTER. I really think that the lack of walks are being magnified a lot more than they should be, which is pretty much the only reason why he's never led the league in OPS. 109 of his 193 hits were either doubles or homers. That's nearly 57% of all his hits going extra bases. Hanley had extra-base hits in 50.4% of his hits. I'll take the guy that makes the most of his hits, albeit the margin of difference here isn't that big. But again, there are 3 specific reasons why Hanley has a higher OPS: 21 more hits, 18 more walks, and 8 triples. Are you saying 21 hits, 18 walks and 8 triples should be the difference for winning an MVP? Please... Some players are just not made to be able to do everything on the field like Hanley can and I believe those others should not be hurt because of a few minor inabilities. Wright didn't get any speed to start so there's nothing can be done with that. He started with average walks, got a bad PD and I decided to not reverse it back when players only had 1 PD reversal to use in their whole careers. That is why he is fair in walks and drawn 40+ walks just once ever. It sucks, but at the time, it was a sacrifice that had to be made. Different players have different games. I feel Wright is just being criticized for what he can't do (lack of walks, triples and speed) and that, plus the Coors Field bias is why a good number of people here don't look at him as the potential all-time great he should be. I disagree with this perspective. Players should be commended for their amazing abilities at what they excel at a lot more than whatever criticism they may get for their weaknesses.
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Post by Ashes on Jun 16, 2015 22:44:07 GMT -5
Easily Hanley. Not even remotely close.
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Post by Captain America on Jun 16, 2015 22:47:54 GMT -5
you do this every season, then act like you will learn from it, only to do it again the next year Nah this season is different with so many more homers and my team getting 110 wins when maybe 5 others even believed in me before the season started. I didn't forget that...
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Post by Captain America on Jun 16, 2015 22:49:38 GMT -5
Honestly won't be upset if he doesn't win this. He should be good enough to win in-game MVP with those numbers that OOTP will like. Plus in-game MVP is worth more, so Hanley can have this.
Notice I didn't criticize Hanley once...he had an awesome season. Nothing bad to say about him. I just put him at [HASH]2 in the NL this time.
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Post by Ashes on Jun 16, 2015 22:54:04 GMT -5
That's fine bro, no one is saying Wright sucks.
Hanley is just better and had the better season.
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Post by Captain America on Jun 16, 2015 22:56:11 GMT -5
Hanley was worth 158.8 runs, over the course of 149 started games, (157 total) for over 1 run per game. He had an OPS of 1.022, hit 45 HR, was a sick SS defensively, and didnt play in Coors for a team that WON its division The Cubs after a while didn't have to fight until the very end for a playoff spot though. I did and led the division until the final 2 games.
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Post by Captain America on Jun 16, 2015 22:56:58 GMT -5
That's fine bro, no one is saying Wright sucks. Hanley is just better and had the better season. If anyone has that opinion, I respect it. I don't completely agree with it, but I respect it.
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