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Post by Free Stutter! on Sept 30, 2013 4:01:14 GMT -5
ehhh
If the player is homegrown...he takes a discount
If the player is not homegrown he gets top 5 player money
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Post by Darell on Sept 30, 2013 4:03:11 GMT -5
ehhh If the player is homegrown...he takes a discount If the player is not homegrown he gets top 5 player money I like this.
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Post by Broph on Sept 30, 2013 4:38:15 GMT -5
How is it a blunder? Did you say anything when the rule went into place? I think Broph was the only one who mentioned it at the time and nobody backed him so I didn't give it a second thought. at least I have ground here, yay
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Post by Broph on Sept 30, 2013 4:38:58 GMT -5
and this rule doesnt really affect me, I wasnt gonna franchise any of my guys.
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Post by Broph on Sept 30, 2013 4:40:52 GMT -5
the rule itslef woulda been acceptable, I dont necessarily like the fact that it encourages sitting on players and picks, but the general nature is acceptable. However, what I dont like is the warningless implementation of a monumental rules change.
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Post by Broph on Sept 30, 2013 4:45:48 GMT -5
Habes, Styro, Play, Ashes, and I, all raised issues with the implementation...thats five Gms, not just me.
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Post by Broph on Sept 30, 2013 4:48:23 GMT -5
in general you dont lend yourself to allowing people to gripe, because you get so butthurt when anybody questions the implementation
then you end up changing it. A lot of people like to avoid controversy, so complaining about the rule isnt there style.
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Post by Broph on Sept 30, 2013 4:48:39 GMT -5
til the effect becomes a big negative on them.
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Post by Nanz on Sept 30, 2013 6:22:39 GMT -5
at what point do you say... nobody is listening to me ill just hang them up LOL
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Post by Erbes on Sept 30, 2013 8:20:14 GMT -5
Okay and? You screwed up implementing the rule...if you're going to do it, then it should have been properly done. Again, why didn't you say anything before?
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Post by Birdie Sanders on Sept 30, 2013 8:28:38 GMT -5
Okay and? You screwed up implementing the rule...if you're going to do it, then it should have been properly done. Again, why didn't you say anything before? Why would anyone wanna do that....
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Post by game on Sept 30, 2013 8:39:23 GMT -5
Interesting
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2013 9:57:37 GMT -5
omg can we stop with the idea that youre entitled to a discount from a player
the stupid rule allows you to prevent him from hitting FA or taking PD hits. why on earth should you also be allowed to pay him less than he's worth. smh
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2013 9:59:08 GMT -5
ideally for me:
no franchise rule, or if there's gonna be one, it only lasts through age 30 unlimited pd reversals under 29, since theyre flukey, occur too often, and don't make sense
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Post by Birdie Sanders on Sept 30, 2013 10:28:20 GMT -5
ideally for me: no franchise rule, or if there's gonna be one, it only lasts through age 30 unlimited pd reversals under 29, since theyre flukey, occur too often, and don't make sense
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Post by Free Stutter! on Sept 30, 2013 10:52:05 GMT -5
30 years old is way too early. Most players are in their prime or entering their prime around that time. The age Erbes has it at right now is perfect.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2013 10:59:39 GMT -5
30 years is a compromise between finding it really dumb that teams should be insulated from competition for the best players and wanting to insulate yourself from competition for your best player imvho
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Post by Spencer on Sept 30, 2013 13:47:17 GMT -5
lol.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 30, 2013 13:49:21 GMT -5
IMO the franchise player was supposed to be unrealistic. It was supposed to be the rare players that stayed with one team their whole career. Thats why I was in favor of a Franchise 1 type player that was drafted, homegrown and stayed their entire career with one team.
Making tiers of players seems like the best idea.
Franchise 1 Franchise 2 Core Core
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2013 13:53:17 GMT -5
how about a rule where if you have a good player you get to pay them very little and they never get to hit fa?
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Post by Erbes on Sept 30, 2013 13:53:49 GMT -5
I'm not changing the contract structure at all. Nobody gives hometown discounts.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 30, 2013 13:56:01 GMT -5
how about a rule where if you have a good player you get to pay them very little and they never get to hit fa? Not sure what that has to do with what I said. I think itd be fun to have the Franchise 1 type. Doesnt need to be discounted. Can be top 5 salary type. But I do like the idea of locked ratings till 35. Because like I said, I want this player to be Derek Jeter. Mariano Rivera. Etc. And hey, if people dont like this then thats fine too. Lets not do a franchise player. Not like I was ever gonna use i anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2013 13:57:55 GMT -5
core four fellas
of which one left in free agency and three got massively overpaid to stay
and here's the best part. none of them declined before age 35. because that what happens when you franchise a player. they never get worse.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2013 13:58:58 GMT -5
next matter is habes getting board cash
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Post by Erbes on Sept 30, 2013 14:03:15 GMT -5
core four fellas of which one left in free agency and three got massively overpaid to stay and here's the best part. none of them declined before age 35. because that what happens when you franchise a player. they never get worse. Lol they were all overpaid because they WERE franchise players. No real life franchise player plays for less than market value plus like 15%. The player has all the leverage in those situations.
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