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Post by Captain America on Sept 28, 2013 13:25:52 GMT -5
John Cohrs increases his talent in getting strikeouts! John Cohrs increases his talent in avoiding hits! Yeee he should be ready for 04 Gonna have to TIA his walks and bump up his duration soon
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Post by Spencer on Sept 28, 2013 13:27:01 GMT -5
Some start Greer is off to
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Post by Steve on Sept 28, 2013 14:17:43 GMT -5
all these guys are so damned close to being worthy of a call up, but just off...I could IRI them to being "ready", but meh, I would rather IRI them AFTER they are ready Yup...well said.
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Post by Steve on Sept 28, 2013 14:18:44 GMT -5
Hanley Ramirez increases his talent in hitting homers! Hanley Ramirez increases his talent in avoiding strikeouts! boy, sure would be nice if Ashes had him right now Hanley, G/B/A/B/A/G with A/B speed and A range at 2B/3B/SS fucking nuts Woohoo! I'm not complaining!....I think he is franchise worthy now! Glad I held off from franchising him or Chase Utley.
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Post by Steve on Sept 28, 2013 14:19:14 GMT -5
16-5 .... Wonder if anyone else besides me I'll pick me for wildcard I picked you, man!
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Post by Steve on Sept 28, 2013 14:19:57 GMT -5
Hanley, G/B/A/B/A/G with A/B speed and A range at 2B/3B/SS fucking nuts damn Sucks that he can't be franchised. Oh shit, that's right...fuck...that rule sucks!!!
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Post by Steve on Sept 28, 2013 14:20:43 GMT -5
Could be a legit 3 team race after all smh shale
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Post by Steve on Sept 28, 2013 14:25:23 GMT -5
Bout time...you have the better team, but I'd love to make a serious run at the Wild Card.
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Post by Free Stutter! on Sept 28, 2013 14:38:56 GMT -5
franchising should have started wtih the 03 draft....not fair to teams that traded for players before the rule was in place
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Post by Steve on Sept 28, 2013 14:39:22 GMT -5
We seriously need to get rid of that rule where YOU have to draft the player...I'm kinda pissed I can't franchise Hanley.
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Post by Steve on Sept 28, 2013 14:40:13 GMT -5
franchising should have started wtih the 03 draft....not fair to teams that traded for players before the rule was in place Exactly, one of the main reasons I acquired Hanley was because he was a guy I could have possibly franchised.
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Post by Steve on Sept 28, 2013 14:41:29 GMT -5
And yes, I have no problem that we are letting Ashes be able to franchise Miggy...but fuck, not right to me or someone else potentially.
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Post by Broph on Sept 28, 2013 14:46:22 GMT -5
the franchise rule shoulda allowed you to franchise anybody on your roster right now, but, in the future, only players you draft for will be eligible (so if you trade for a guy you cant franchise him.)
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Post by Steve on Sept 28, 2013 14:47:07 GMT -5
Amen.
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Post by Youth Movement on Sept 28, 2013 15:53:24 GMT -5
We seriously need to get rid of that rule where YOU have to draft the player...I'm kinda pissed I can't franchise Hanley. meh, shut up. You tried to franchise last year out of fright that he would take another pd hit. This rule doesn't affect you, you're just trying to capitalize on a good PD he just had. Pretty lame for people to have a delayed reaction only cause in hindsight it affects them. like gtfo.
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Post by Youth Movement on Sept 28, 2013 15:56:05 GMT -5
Also, I love the rule and i have no major problems with it. The only thing I would have liked to see Erbes do is maybe allow for gm's to franchise anyone they wanted to prior to the season starting. Allow a last wave of franchise players before the rule was put into effect. An immediate application of the rule was harsh. Letting guys like ashes franchise miggy or pirates to franchise Hanley (prior to the pd increase) would have been a reasonable thing to do. Guys complaining now that something in-season has changed shouldn't talk imo.
There should have been a opening day deadline for those looking to franchise, that's all.
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Post by Broph on Sept 28, 2013 15:58:51 GMT -5
Also, I love the rule and i have no major problems with it. The only thing I would have liked to see Erbes do is maybe allow for gm's to franchise anyone they wanted to prior to the season starting. Allow a last wave of franchise players before the rule was put into effect. An immediate application of the rule was harsh. Letting guys like ashes franchise miggy or pirates to franchise Hanley (prior to the pd increase) would have been a reasonable thing to do. Guys complaining now that something in-season has changed shouldn't talk imo. There should have been a opening day deadline for those looking to franchise, that's all. I said it from the beginning, he never did anything of the sort, so saying we are wrong to complain is wrong
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Post by Broph on Sept 28, 2013 16:00:52 GMT -5
but to say that guys shouldnt have the option to franchise a guy on their roster right now, as they may have planned to do, due to a sudden rule change with no warning, no phase in period, it just changed a bunch of teams plans. I never had any plan on franchising any of my guys, so it didnt affect me, that doesnt mean the rule change wasnt very very poorly implemented
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Post by Youth Movement on Sept 28, 2013 16:02:40 GMT -5
no, you're right to complain. But a sudden outburst and outspokenness is pretty lame and poor form. This is the third week in the season. I'm not talking about you btw. Seeing a good pd and then starting an uproar is dumb as hell. I have hardly had time to be on the forums but I would have at least suggested a little window for guys to be franchised. Of course that window wouldn't have included the 3rd week of the season, but a window prior to the season would have allowed guys to do what they had to do without plans being changed.
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Post by Broph on Sept 28, 2013 16:03:05 GMT -5
I like the rule as well, but there is no way that shoulda been implemented that fast, let teams franchise any player on their roster right now, no matter what happens with them between now and whenever,but dont let them franchise anybody they trade for from here out, only players drafted.
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Post by Youth Movement on Sept 28, 2013 16:03:54 GMT -5
but to say that guys shouldnt have the option to franchise a guy on their roster right now, as they may have planned to do, due to a sudden rule change with no warning, no phase in period, it just changed a bunch of teams plans. I never had any plan on franchising any of my guys, so it didnt affect me, that doesnt mean the rule change wasnt very very poorly implemented ummm, I suggested erbes was wrong in putting the rule into immediate effect and i feel you're right, there should have been a window PRIOR to the season to allow guys to be franchised. Wanting to franchise a guy after the 3rd week in the season is a bit out of line though and unrealistic.
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Post by Youth Movement on Sept 28, 2013 16:05:50 GMT -5
I like the rule as well, but there is no way that shoulda been implemented that fast, let teams franchise any player on their roster right now, no matter what happens with them between now and whenever,but dont let them franchise anybody they trade for from here out, only players drafted. nah, I feel that if you were going to franchise somebody and you acquired someone with that intent he should have allowed a minimal window for gm's to do so. The window shouldn't have been indefinite.
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Post by Broph on Sept 28, 2013 16:06:54 GMT -5
I like the rule as well, but there is no way that shoulda been implemented that fast, let teams franchise any player on their roster right now, no matter what happens with them between now and whenever,but dont let them franchise anybody they trade for from here out, only players drafted. nah, I feel that if you were going to franchise somebody and you acquired someone with that intent he should have allowed a minimal window for gm's to do so. The window shouldn't have been indefinite. but not everybody is ready at this point forcing them to call them up just to franchise them is pretty meh.
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Post by Youth Movement on Sept 28, 2013 16:10:52 GMT -5
meh, that's true. Maybe i was focusing too much on one situation. Hanley was already in the majors so steve decided he was ready. If he really wanted to franchise him, he should have been allowed to in the minimal window i proposed. Going ape shit after a good pd on the third sim of the season is pretty bad though.
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Post by Broph on Sept 28, 2013 16:13:01 GMT -5
meh, that's true. Maybe i was focusing too much on one situation. Hanley was already in the majors so steve decided he was ready. If he really wanted to franchise him, he should have been allowed to in the minimal window i proposed. Going ape shit after a good pd on the third sim of the season is pretty bad though. he was trying to decide between Utley and Hanley, he still has Utley to franchise, just wishes he woulda had the choice. It was a tough call til Hanley blew up. So there was a reason he wanted to wait, and that option shouldnt arbitrarily be taken away.
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