Broph
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Post by Broph on Jul 16, 2013 23:45:57 GMT -5
had you posted the trade the way it was processed, part one would have been put through, the same exact way, and when it came to part two he woulda found it invalid
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Post by bravesgm on Jul 16, 2013 23:46:20 GMT -5
Your wording suggests he made an error too and he should be owning up to it. What wording? He processed the part with the cash (no players, no need to look for positions, hell, he didn't even have to do anything since it was board cash, right?) The 2nd part was not processed because the positions weren't listed. Part of a rule he's put in that we're all (including you) are aware of by now. If you really want to get picky, none of the trade should have ever been processed since it had 2 flaws....no positions listed and a player being traded before the assigned day he was eligible to be traded. So I'd look at it as commish was nice and processed part of an "illegal" trade at that point in time to help someone. Should he have noticed? Probably...should the participating GM's know the rules and follow them? Yup. Didn't we just have a guy drop in draft picks because he didn't know the rule? The pace of this league at times is nuts, so commish is doing things as quickly as he can to appease the rest of the league. Know the rules, abide by them and you'll have 0 issues. Pretty simple.
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Post by Broph on Jul 16, 2013 23:46:38 GMT -5
I jumped the gun calling it a screwjob because that's how I operate and I need to change it but it still could have been prevented by both sides and to place sole blame on me is out of line. your continued request for an apology because of Erbes "fuckup" suggests you think its not on you.
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Post by Saitama on Jul 16, 2013 23:46:46 GMT -5
The trade should be looked at as a whole when processing any part of it. Not doing so opens so many loopholes.
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Post by Broph on Jul 16, 2013 23:47:28 GMT -5
The trade should be looked at as a whole when processing any part of it. Not doing so opens so many loopholes. not really, you requested it as two parts...
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Post by Saitama on Jul 16, 2013 23:47:45 GMT -5
Your wording suggests he made an error too and he should be owning up to it. What wording? He processed the part with the cash (no players, no need to look for positions, hell, he didn't even have to do anything since it was board cash, right?) The 2nd part was not processed because the positions weren't listed. Part of a rule he's put in that we're all (including you) are aware of by now. If you really want to get picky, none of the trade should have ever been processed since it had 2 flaws....no positions listed and a player being traded before the assigned day he was eligible to be traded. So I'd look at it as commish was nice and processed part of an "illegal" trade at that point in time to help someone. Should he have noticed? Probably...should the participating GM's know the rules and follow them? Yup. Didn't we just have a guy drop in draft picks because he didn't know the rule? The pace of this league at times is nuts, so commish is doing things as quickly as he can to appease the rest of the league. Know the rules, abide by them and you'll have 0 issues. Pretty simple. Yes I do want to get picky. None of the trade being processed means that he gets his 5 mil the next sim and I get my player when I expected it. That's how it should have worked in hindsight and to argue against that is semantic.
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Post by Broph on Jul 16, 2013 23:47:56 GMT -5
Your wording suggests he made an error too and he should be owning up to it. What wording? He processed the part with the cash (no players, no need to look for positions, hell, he didn't even have to do anything since it was board cash, right?) The 2nd part was not processed because the positions weren't listed. Part of a rule he's put in that we're all (including you) are aware of by now. If you really want to get picky, none of the trade should have ever been processed since it had 2 flaws....no positions listed and a player being traded before the assigned day he was eligible to be traded. So I'd look at it as commish was nice and processed part of an "illegal" trade at that point in time to help someone. Should he have noticed? Probably...should the participating GM's know the rules and follow them? Yup. Didn't we just have a guy drop in draft picks because he didn't know the rule? The pace of this league at times is nuts, so commish is doing things as quickly as he can to appease the rest of the league. Know the rules, abide by them and you'll have 0 issues. Pretty simple. and break was all over that being done
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Post by Broph on Jul 16, 2013 23:48:33 GMT -5
What wording? He processed the part with the cash (no players, no need to look for positions, hell, he didn't even have to do anything since it was board cash, right?) The 2nd part was not processed because the positions weren't listed. Part of a rule he's put in that we're all (including you) are aware of by now. If you really want to get picky, none of the trade should have ever been processed since it had 2 flaws....no positions listed and a player being traded before the assigned day he was eligible to be traded. So I'd look at it as commish was nice and processed part of an "illegal" trade at that point in time to help someone. Should he have noticed? Probably...should the participating GM's know the rules and follow them? Yup. Didn't we just have a guy drop in draft picks because he didn't know the rule? The pace of this league at times is nuts, so commish is doing things as quickly as he can to appease the rest of the league. Know the rules, abide by them and you'll have 0 issues. Pretty simple. Yes I do want to get picky. None of the trade being processed means that he gets his 5 mil the next sim and I get my player when I expected it. That's how it should have worked in hindsight and to argue against that is semantic. but when the draft rule was broken, you were all for the rules being followed as it was no question about it
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Post by Saitama on Jul 16, 2013 23:48:53 GMT -5
And everyone ignores the other part to this argument where there is nothing in the rules about positions in the section that is listed "Rules" it was mentioned in passing and followed unofficially so far so that's even more reason for me to be a little angry over it because I was told I was stupid and to "read the rules" more than once by him here.
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Post by Broph on Jul 16, 2013 23:49:44 GMT -5
And everyone ignores the other part to this argument where there is nothing in the rules about positions in the section that is listed "Rules" it was mentioned in passing and followed unofficially so far so that's even more reason for me to be a little angry over it because I was told I was stupid and to "read the rules" more than once by him here. bbsblthree.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=rules&action=display&thread=1164yeah, blind
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Post by Saitama on Jul 16, 2013 23:49:54 GMT -5
All completed trades must be accepted by both parties, by posting their agreement in the trade thread. Trades won't be put through unless both general managers post.
The trade deadline each season will be July 31.
You are allowed to trade whatever cash you have.
Signing players during off-season free agency with the intention of trading them is not encouraged. You may not trade these players until July 1. After this time you may trade them.
Teams under probation may not make trades that result in an increase of payroll.
You may trade for the draft picks. You can only trade the current season plus two additional into the future. Example: It's 1996. You may trade '96, '97, and '98 picks.
1999 SEASON EDIT: In every trade there must be players exchanged from both teams. The exceptions are trades such as picks for cash, picks for picks, etc. If there is a player moving from one team, they must be receiving one as well.
Trades will hopefully never have to be vetoed. I reserve the right to do what is best for the league in any situation.
Show me in this official rules section where it says I need to list positions. This is the be all end all constitution that I was told to read more than once and it says nothing as to why my trade was rejected.
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Post by Broph on Jul 16, 2013 23:50:15 GMT -5
so yeah dumbass, read the rules again
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Post by Broph on Jul 16, 2013 23:50:35 GMT -5
On-Board Transactions « Thread Started on Apr 9, 2013, 3:59pm » From now if you do not list the position of the player in your transaction post, that post will not be processed. This includes trades, waivers, cuts, and free agent signings. I do NOT need to know the level they are at, just the position.
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Post by Saitama on Jul 16, 2013 23:51:02 GMT -5
Ok I missed that. But in those rules it says the POST will not be processed. He broke his own rule by sending the 5 million back then resulting in me losing out on this player for a week when I shouldn't have.
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Post by Broph on Jul 16, 2013 23:51:33 GMT -5
Ok I missed that. But in those rules it says the POST will not be processed. He broke his own rule by sending the 5 million back then resulting in me losing out on this player for a week when I shouldn't have. lol, its worded that way because of waivers cuts etc
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Post by Saitama on Jul 16, 2013 23:52:12 GMT -5
That doesn't change the fact it says post and not "part of the trade that includes players". It's a hole in the rules that I've fallen victim to that shouldn't exist.
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Post by bravesgm on Jul 16, 2013 23:52:55 GMT -5
Ok I missed that. But in those rules it says the POST will not be processed. He broke his own rule by sending the 5 million back then resulting in me losing out on this player for a week when I shouldn't have. So because you asked him to process part of it and wait for the rest (he actually helped you out and was nice to you, right?) now he's the bad guy? Can't have it two ways.
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Broph
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Post by Broph on Jul 16, 2013 23:53:02 GMT -5
jesus fucking christ you whiny bitch, just stop acting like you are not at fault for this shit, you fucked up, if you dont, everything goes smooth, its as simple as that...stop blaming Erbes for your own mistake
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Post by bravesgm on Jul 16, 2013 23:54:38 GMT -5
That doesn't change the fact it says post and not "part of the trade that includes players". It's a hole in the rules that I've fallen victim to that shouldn't exist. YOU TOLD HIM HE COULD PROCESS THAT PART. Had he not, you'd have throw a fit that he was picking on you and singling you out yet again. Seriously getting old.
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Post by Saitama on Jul 16, 2013 23:54:40 GMT -5
accept. Just don't put it through yet and we can cancel if something goes down between now and then. Did I say that? He ignored my post and sent it. If you're going to call me out on inconsistency look at everything.
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Post by Captain America on Jul 16, 2013 23:55:34 GMT -5
Mariano Absolutely loved the way they handled it. Only one of the field as he took the field. Amazing ovation the fans (myself being one of them) gave him. Just a great way to end his time at the Midsummer Classic.
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Post by Captain America on Jul 16, 2013 23:56:09 GMT -5
Being at the game was amazing! Sucks that the NL only had 3 hits, but at least Wright had 1 of them.
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Post by bravesgm on Jul 16, 2013 23:56:16 GMT -5
accept. Just don't put it through yet and we can cancel if something goes down between now and then. Did I say that? He ignored my post and sent it. If you're going to call me out on inconsistency look at everything. And your next post is the other one I quoted. Forget that part?
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Post by Captain America on Jul 16, 2013 23:58:01 GMT -5
Harvey was legit after giving up the double to Trout
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Post by Captain America on Jul 16, 2013 23:58:19 GMT -5
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