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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2013 21:35:32 GMT -5
HOU
15 Players:
Bagwell
Piazza
Canseco
Biggio
Burnitz
Guillen
Hampton
Reynolds
Kile
Oswalt
Wagner
Kile
Carrasco (could be 97 pick, dunno)
O'Neill
Swindell
1998 Picks
Ryan
Watkins
etc.
1997 Picks
Gonzalez
etc.
The best player I would give up is like Bill Spiers or Derek Bell. And then maybe lose a meddling reliever or 2.5 spect.
Now my team is not terribly deep, probably par for the course.
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Post by bigbuhner on Mar 30, 2013 21:36:01 GMT -5
Fucking commish who doesn't take input from his members before making a rule.  How much experience do you have commishing and running an expansion draft? I went to the most experienced guy in the league and used his exact model from the really successfully expansion draft he used in a league that has been running for at least 10 real life years. You can go ahead and shut the fuck up now. Commishing an expansion draft....none. Running an expansion draft: TWO TIMES. YOU DON"T KNOW ME, SO YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP!  |
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Post by Erbes on Mar 30, 2013 21:36:26 GMT -5
The point is to bring two competitive teams into the league. Not two teams that will take 5-7 years to rebuild. Weird you just described the real Rays And Diamondbacks spent a shitload in FA to win right  The diamondbacks built their franchise around that shitty 1B There's clearly two different draft strategies. If you look at the real draft, the Rays took younger players and the Dbacks took older, more developed players. |
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Post by game on Mar 30, 2013 21:36:37 GMT -5
Yeah they get 2 top 10 picks one late 1st and cap in FA for 2003 |
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Post by Erbes on Mar 30, 2013 21:37:07 GMT -5
How much experience do you have commishing and running an expansion draft? I went to the most experienced guy in the league and used his exact model from the really successfully expansion draft he used in a league that has been running for at least 10 real life years. You can go ahead and shut the fuck up now. Commishing an expansion draft....none. Running an expansion draft: TWO TIMES. YOU DON"T KNOW ME, SO YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP! Show me the way you ran it and the results. |
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Post by Broph on Mar 30, 2013 21:37:39 GMT -5
for the guys posting 1997 and 1998, they dont matter, since they are currently on your roster and will be eligible by then, you arent just gonna have them magically disappear anytime soon. 2000 and 2001 wont be eligible, so that will help
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Post by game on Mar 30, 2013 21:38:10 GMT -5
I like turtles
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Post by bigbuhner on Mar 30, 2013 21:40:02 GMT -5
OVERVIEW:
- The league will expand to 28 teams in the offseason prior to 1993, with the addition of the Florida Marlins and the Colorado Rockies.
- The teams will have the top 2 picks in each round of the 1992 Amateur Draft.
- The draft will take place during the offseason of 1992 before Free Agency.
ELIGIBLE PLAYERS:
- All players not drafted in our previous 3 Ammy Drafts are eligible (i.e. the 1991, 1992 and 1993 drafts).
PROTECTED PLAYERS:
- From the eligible list, each major league team will protect 15 players prior to Free Agency.
- As a result, each team must send by e-mail a list of 23 protected players because of the stipulations below.
EXPANSION DRAFT RULES:
- The Expansion Draft will last 3 rounds.
- A coin flip will determine the order of the draft. The winner may choose the 1st and 4th picks, or the 2nd and 3rd picks in the first round.
- After the first four picks, the Marlins and Rockies will alternate selections for the rest of the draft.
- A total of 26 players will be selected in the first round from each major league team. Each expansion team will have 13 players.
- Prior to the second round, each team will protect 3 additional players.
- The second round will proceed in the same manner as the first, with each team losing an additional player.
- At the conclusion of the second round, each expansion team will have 26 players.
- Prior to the third round, each team will again protect 3 additional players.
- During the third round, the top nine American League teams and the top nine National League teams by standings will lose an additional player, giving each expansion team 35 total players
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Post by Erbes on Mar 30, 2013 21:40:39 GMT -5
LOLOLOLOLOL YOURE PROTECTING 15 PLAYERS!!!! WTFFFFF
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Post by Erbes on Mar 30, 2013 21:40:58 GMT -5
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
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Post by Broph on Mar 30, 2013 21:41:21 GMT -5
Id protect Jeter, Giambi, Everett, Dye, TVP, Pavano, Peralta from my majors, Ortiz, Chavez, Cruz, Wilkerson Mulder Zambrano Ohka, then you toss my 1999 first round 2nd round etc picks in, and suddenly I have issues...plus I plan on signing players with the 30-40 million I have to spend in FA...thats a big problem
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Post by Erbes on Mar 30, 2013 21:41:28 GMT -5
This is the same exact way that I'm doing it and Chris did it. This is comical.
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Post by Ashes on Mar 30, 2013 21:42:09 GMT -5
I saw 23
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Post by Erbes on Mar 30, 2013 21:42:14 GMT -5
Id protect Jeter, Giambi, Everett, Dye, TVP, Pavano, Peralta from my majors, Ortiz, Chavez, Cruz, Wilkerson Mulder Zambrano Ohka, then you toss my 1999 first round 2nd round etc picks in, and suddenly I have issues...plus I plan on signing players with the 30-40 million I have to spend in FA...thats a big problem You just want to protect every single player that has value. Sorry. Not happening. You're going to have to make tough decisions. |
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Post by bigbuhner on Mar 30, 2013 21:42:30 GMT -5
3 expansion teams made the playoffs in their third year of existance.
One did not make the playoffs for ten seasons.
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Post by Erbes on Mar 30, 2013 21:42:54 GMT -5
That number included the draft picks, which you're automatically protected here from per my description. |
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Post by Free Stutter! on Mar 30, 2013 21:42:55 GMT -5
no reason for me to continue building my minor league system right now
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Post by Broph on Mar 30, 2013 21:43:00 GMT -5
LOLOLOLOLOL YOURE PROTECTING 15 PLAYERS!!!! WTFFFFF - All players not drafted in our previous 3 Ammy Drafts are eligible (i.e. the 1991, 1992 and 1993 drafts). that helps alot, 3 drafts protects an extra 2 or 3 guys potentiall, 4 is what it should be |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2013 21:43:03 GMT -5
only difference is an additional draft year exemption. 15 is same. protecting 3 (6 total) players is less than proposed 5 (10 total) is a big difference.
I think the key is do we add the infamous 1999 to the exemptions? I'd say that would be a good compromise and call it a day. Keep it at 15.
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Post by Erbes on Mar 30, 2013 21:44:23 GMT -5
only difference is an additional draft year exemption. 15 is same. protecting 3 (6 total) players is less than proposed 5 (10 total) is a big difference. I think the key is do we add the infamous 1999 to the exemptions? I'd say that would be a good compromise and call it a day. Keep it at 15. If I do this that's it. No more complaining. |
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Post by Broph on Mar 30, 2013 21:44:30 GMT -5
Id protect Jeter, Giambi, Everett, Dye, TVP, Pavano, Peralta from my majors, Ortiz, Chavez, Cruz, Wilkerson Mulder Zambrano Ohka, then you toss my 1999 first round 2nd round etc picks in, and suddenly I have issues...plus I plan on signing players with the 30-40 million I have to spend in FA...thats a big problem You just want to protect every single player that has value. Sorry. Not happening. You're going to have to make tough decisions. except the part where I just left off every single decent reliever I have, not to mention a few Pitchers...you toss my first round pick in, and suddenly Im fucked over with the loss of a 3.5 to 4 star prospect for absolutely nothing to a team thats already got the benefit of no salary commitments, 3 drafts worth of players, and loads of flexibilty |
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Post by bigbuhner on Mar 30, 2013 21:45:09 GMT -5
First, let me say I LOVE EXPANSION!
More active teams, the better!
Glad we are doing this!
Protecting 15 players is fine.
I just didn't like, at first glance, seeing 2 draft years instead of three, which pretty much jumps up at least 2 guys in a regular draft year into your protected 15. In that way, you are just having to protect more young guys than older guys.
Also, only pulling back 3 at a time makes a big difference instead of 5. I actually think it will be interesting to see how it works. I don't think I was around GABL during expansion, I can live with it.
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Post by game on Mar 30, 2013 21:45:52 GMT -5
Helton
Delgado
Rollins
Beltre
Stewart
Smoltz
Carpenter
Woody
Halladay
Garcia
Graves
Downs
Spezio
Paxton Crawford
(Another spect I can't decide have like 5 I like)Escobar probs
That's my 15
So I'd have
Eric Sabel(45 spect)
Nunez 3.5 MLB MR
SponeBerger 4.5 spect
Vernon Wells(2.5 spect)
Alex Sanchez/Casey Blake/Latroy Hawkins all 3.0 Spects
And I was gonna use my cap to add more this offseason
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Post by Erbes on Mar 30, 2013 21:46:48 GMT -5
You just want to protect every single player that has value. Sorry. Not happening. You're going to have to make tough decisions. except the part where I just left off every single decent reliever I have, not to mention a few Pitchers...you toss my first round pick in, and suddenly Im fucked over with the loss of a 3.5 to 4 star prospect for absolutely nothing to a team thats already got the benefit of no salary commitments, 3 drafts worth of players, and loads of flexibilty Feel like you're way overvaluing relievers. |
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Post by Erbes on Mar 30, 2013 21:47:26 GMT -5
Helton Delgado Rollins Beltre Stewart Smoltz Carpenter Woody Halladay Garcia Graves Downs Spezio Paxton Crawford (Another spect I can't decide have like 5 I like)Escobar probs That's my 15 So I'd have Eric Sabel(45 spect) Nunez 3.5 MLB MR SponeBerger 4.5 spect Vernon Wells(2.5 spect) Alex Sanchez/Casey Blake/Latroy Hawkins all 3.0 Spects And I was gonna use my cap to add more this offseason And you'll only lose three of those players. It's not going to cripple you. |
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