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Post by greeme on Jun 19, 2015 1:28:48 GMT -5
why? if they don't like it don't bid if his first is gone then the next first the guy has? What if all 3 of a team's next 1st round picks are all gone? cant bid? 2 2nds? be creative |
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greeme
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Post by greeme on Jun 19, 2015 1:29:16 GMT -5
not really that is why a lot of teams run into salary problems because they are dumb GMs? yes |
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Broph
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Post by Broph on Jun 19, 2015 1:29:47 GMT -5
he went two years no? pretty easy to handle two years 20 million unlike paying a DH that cant DH 120+ how is that easy? 40 game is like 20 board. i could buy a better pitcher with 20 board because you can either A: trade him to a tanking team with no salary commitments, or B, start losing yourself next year (20 million) or this year (40 Million), cut salary and cut him. |
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Post by Broph on Jun 19, 2015 1:30:19 GMT -5
I let guys walk, if they want to much, gtfo..
I also shy away from guys that want too much
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Post by Broph on Jun 19, 2015 1:30:39 GMT -5
only guy was Francouer, I let him go to FA, then, signed him back at 12 Million, vs. 20
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Post by Broph on Jun 19, 2015 1:31:03 GMT -5
Derrico only wants 4 million by the way.
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Post by Broph on Jun 19, 2015 1:31:50 GMT -5
Stras took 4. something x 7 (that shocked me, but Average Average for a winning team must be minimal loyal)
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greeme
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Post by greeme on Jun 19, 2015 1:32:15 GMT -5
how is that easy? 40 game is like 20 board. i could buy a better pitcher with 20 board because you can either A: trade him to a tanking team with no salary commitments, or B, start losing yourself next year (20 million) or this year (40 Million), cut salary and cut him. but you still have better things to do with 20 board guys were desperate for board this year. 20 board would have gotten more than he would bring in a trade i mean you could sign him and trade him right away but i don't see the value there with a 20 mil contract |
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greeme
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Post by greeme on Jun 19, 2015 1:33:13 GMT -5
I let guys walk, if they want to much, gtfo.. I also shy away from guys that want too much eh, i would have let gordon walk if i was getting compensation but i won't let him walk for free |
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Post by Broph on Jun 19, 2015 1:33:29 GMT -5
because you can either A: trade him to a tanking team with no salary commitments, or B, start losing yourself next year (20 million) or this year (40 Million), cut salary and cut him. but you still have better things to do with 20 board guys were desperate for board this year. 20 board would have gotten more than he would bring in a trade i mean you could sign him and trade him right away but i don't see the value there with a 20 mil contract you dont have to use board cash...if I have 50 million game cash and start losing, I can trade the game cash, trade my salary, have Colome and nothing, cut him, it adds 20 more to your salary this year, but leaves nothing next year. |
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greeme
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Post by greeme on Jun 19, 2015 1:33:47 GMT -5
only guy was Francouer, I let him go to FA, then, signed him back at 12 Million, vs. 20 he walked in a big fa year. any other year someone would have stolen him |
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Broph
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Post by Broph on Jun 19, 2015 1:33:55 GMT -5
I let guys walk, if they want to much, gtfo.. I also shy away from guys that want too much eh, i would have let gordon walk if i was getting compensation but i won't let him walk for free he wanted 20? let him go to FA, gamble on getting him back for less. |
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Post by Free Stutter! on Jun 19, 2015 1:34:28 GMT -5
greeme stfu
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Post by Broph on Jun 19, 2015 1:34:51 GMT -5
only guy was Francouer, I let him go to FA, then, signed him back at 12 Million, vs. 20 he walked in a big fa year. any other year someone would have stolen him not really....Ashes offered him plenty. You think a team is gonna offer him 20 Million at 32 (33 when they can trade him) lol |
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Post by Broph on Jun 19, 2015 1:35:20 GMT -5
I dont mind Compensation, but it has to be done right, all we would get with that setup is a ton of 9.999 offers
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Post by greeme on Jun 19, 2015 1:35:41 GMT -5
but you still have better things to do with 20 board guys were desperate for board this year. 20 board would have gotten more than he would bring in a trade i mean you could sign him and trade him right away but i don't see the value there with a 20 mil contract you dont have to use board cash...if I have 50 million game cash and start losing, I can trade the game cash, trade my salary, have Colome and nothing, cut him, it adds 20 more to your salary this year, but leaves nothing next year. but if i have excess game i can trade that for players or board cash. my point is that colome is worth less than the cost of his contract. i could see a contending team picking him up at the deadline but i don't know if what they give will be worth the game cash spent up until that point and of course the pd risk until he is traded is on dave |
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Post by Broph on Jun 19, 2015 1:35:43 GMT -5
and it should only be for guys younger than say, 30?
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Post by Broph on Jun 19, 2015 1:36:19 GMT -5
you dont have to use board cash...if I have 50 million game cash and start losing, I can trade the game cash, trade my salary, have Colome and nothing, cut him, it adds 20 more to your salary this year, but leaves nothing next year. but if i have excess game i can trade that for players or board cash. my point is that colome is worth less than the cost of his contract. i could see a contending team picking him up at the deadline but i don't know if what they give will be worth the game cash spent up until that point and of course the pd risk until he is traded is on dave if you are gonna make 70 million, you have 50, you can trade that 50 all you want, that 70 million is still gonna overrun |
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Post by greeme on Jun 19, 2015 1:36:38 GMT -5
eh, i would have let gordon walk if i was getting compensation but i won't let him walk for free he wanted 20? let him go to FA, gamble on getting him back for less. why? for 5 mil less? it doesn't make sense taking the risk. if he was younger it might but not at this age |
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Post by Jarvis Landry on Jun 19, 2015 1:36:59 GMT -5
I would have let Kendrick walk if I was geting a first
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Post by greeme on Jun 19, 2015 1:37:16 GMT -5
I dont mind Compensation, but it has to be done right, all we would get with that setup is a ton of 9.999 offers but then dave could offer 10 mil |
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Post by Jarvis Landry on Jun 19, 2015 1:37:22 GMT -5
and it should only be for guys younger than say, 30? No? |
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Post by Broph on Jun 19, 2015 1:37:33 GMT -5
he wanted 20? let him go to FA, gamble on getting him back for less. why? for 5 mil less? it doesn't make sense taking the risk. if he was younger it might but not at this age because he already has no value, you are losing no value for nothing, and I could try to grab him (except I have nowhere to play him) Francouer had no value pre trade, no value post trade (and now, no Brilliant homers means NO VALUE YEE) |
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Post by Broph on Jun 19, 2015 1:38:34 GMT -5
and it should only be for guys younger than say, 30? No? why, you wanna keep a guy 30+, pay him what he wants or let him walk, guys are allowed to walk all the time right now at 30+, no issue there, you never see guys in the 20's in FA. (Ackley is probably the best of the last few years.) |
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greeme
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Post by greeme on Jun 19, 2015 1:38:35 GMT -5
but if i have excess game i can trade that for players or board cash. my point is that colome is worth less than the cost of his contract. i could see a contending team picking him up at the deadline but i don't know if what they give will be worth the game cash spent up until that point and of course the pd risk until he is traded is on dave if you are gonna make 70 million, you have 50, you can trade that 50 all you want, that 70 million is still gonna overrun stadium funds are useful |
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