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Post by bravesgm on Jan 15, 2013 22:32:46 GMT -5
And just for the record...I'm not a fan of short notice on bringing him in now.
I'm stuck at this point with my Smoltz 20 mil...had I known Ichiro was coming in, I might have been more active on trying to trade him and saving money.
Do I expect this to change? Not one bit...but having more notice in the future than the day before FA sims would be nice.
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Post by danchevy on Jan 15, 2013 22:34:10 GMT -5
you have 5 FA sims left so you got about a week and a bit to try and make a move if you wanted to.
I know its not ages, but with how active this league is, you could definately get a deal done in a week.
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Post by RoyalsGM on Jan 15, 2013 22:35:09 GMT -5
And just for the record...I'm not a fan of short notice on bringing him in now. I'm stuck at this point with my Smoltz 20 mil...had I known Ichiro was coming in, I might have been more active on trying to trade him and saving money. Do I expect this to change? Not one bit...but having more notice in the future than the day before FA sims would be nice. Although I have no sympathy for the WS winner, I have to agree that adding Ichiro in this fashion is largely unfair. Some markets are immediately out of it. I say put him in the open market and let the ridiculous offers roll in.
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Post by Saitama on Jan 16, 2013 0:28:29 GMT -5
And just for the record...I'm not a fan of short notice on bringing him in now. I'm stuck at this point with my Smoltz 20 mil...had I known Ichiro was coming in, I might have been more active on trying to trade him and saving money. Do I expect this to change? Not one bit...but having more notice in the future than the day before FA sims would be nice. Or maybe, stop blaming others and fault yourself for foolishly signing someone to a 20 million dollar deal?
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Post by Free Stutter! on Jan 16, 2013 2:12:48 GMT -5
mehh...cant afford him
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Post by jeffersjv23 on Jan 16, 2013 7:20:20 GMT -5
It really does seem like it's 20 teams that want to wait to bring him in, 1 team that wants him in now, and the 1 team wins. It doesn't hurt me either way. I can break the bank and sign him if I want, and the surprise factor of his posting is similar to what happens in real life, but I would've preferred the realism of having him come in the same time as real life. If orix had posted him at 23 or 24 years old, they'd have wanted something like a $100 million or more posting fee.
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Post by bravesgm on Jan 16, 2013 8:24:10 GMT -5
And just for the record...I'm not a fan of short notice on bringing him in now. I'm stuck at this point with my Smoltz 20 mil...had I known Ichiro was coming in, I might have been more active on trying to trade him and saving money. Do I expect this to change? Not one bit...but having more notice in the future than the day before FA sims would be nice. Or maybe, stop blaming others and fault yourself for foolishly signing someone to a 20 million dollar deal? Where did I ever blame anyone? I simply said if I'd have known a 20 yr old Ichiro was coming into the league I would have thought differently about signing Smoltz to that contract. As it is, I've still got 2 of the top pitchers in the league as part of my team, no matter what the cost is. I can afford them, still have the majority of my team back from last season and plan on winning another WS title this season. How about you go back and worry about your Red Sox and try to win something, sound good?
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Post by Erbes on Jan 16, 2013 8:55:43 GMT -5
WAY TO GO BROPH!
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Post by Erbes on Jan 16, 2013 8:59:10 GMT -5
What constitutes as the highest bid? Is it posting fee + total value of the contract? Or is it just the contract itself once a bidder has cleared the predetermined posting fee. Say Ichiro's requested posting fee is $10M Team A - Posting Fee: $10M w a contract of 5 years x $10M Team B - Posting Fee: $20M w a contract of 5 years x 8M Would this be considered a tie or would Team A get Ichiro because they cleared the posting fee (despite it being less than Team B's) and offered him a bigger contract? Honestly there shouldn't be a tiebreaker. This is how it goes: first you have to have the largest posting fee for the Orix Blue Wave to accept. Then you have to have the largest contract offer for Ichiro. For example: Team A: $3M posting bid, 5 yrs x $2M Team B: $3M posting bid, 5 yrs x $1.5M Team C: $2M posting bid, 5 yrs x $3M Team C is out because of the lowest posting bid right off the bat. Team A and B have the same posting bid, but Team B is eliminated because of the smaller contract.
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Post by Erbes on Jan 16, 2013 8:59:59 GMT -5
And just for the record...I'm not a fan of short notice on bringing him in now. I'm stuck at this point with my Smoltz 20 mil...had I known Ichiro was coming in, I might have been more active on trying to trade him and saving money. Do I expect this to change? Not one bit...but having more notice in the future than the day before FA sims would be nice. Although I have no sympathy for the WS winner, I have to agree that adding Ichiro in this fashion is largely unfair. Some markets are immediately out of it. I say put him in the open market and let the ridiculous offers roll in. Isn't that how it is in real life? Never have I seen an international player get posted and every team has a shot.
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Post by Erbes on Jan 16, 2013 9:00:53 GMT -5
And just for the record...I'm not a fan of short notice on bringing him in now. I'm stuck at this point with my Smoltz 20 mil...had I known Ichiro was coming in, I might have been more active on trying to trade him and saving money. Do I expect this to change? Not one bit...but having more notice in the future than the day before FA sims would be nice. So I was supposed to post him last year in the middle of the season? This is when bidding occurs on international players in real life. These guys are more of a surprise than anything.
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Post by Erbes on Jan 16, 2013 9:03:40 GMT -5
It really does seem like it's 20 teams that want to wait to bring him in, 1 team that wants him in now, and the 1 team wins. It doesn't hurt me either way. I can break the bank and sign him if I want, and the surprise factor of his posting is similar to what happens in real life, but I would've preferred the realism of having him come in the same time as real life. If orix had posted him at 23 or 24 years old, they'd have wanted something like a $100 million or more posting fee. When it came down to it, I agreed with Broph that I didn't want to waste 10 years of Ichiro. It was actually noted that in 1996 Ichiro wanted to be posted (not kidding at all about that), so I'm just granting him his wish! I mean the guy just came off his 3rd straight MVP in Japan after the 96 season. He's coming over.
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Post by Erbes on Jan 16, 2013 9:05:11 GMT -5
And just for the record...I'm not a fan of short notice on bringing him in now. I'm stuck at this point with my Smoltz 20 mil...had I known Ichiro was coming in, I might have been more active on trying to trade him and saving money. Do I expect this to change? Not one bit...but having more notice in the future than the day before FA sims would be nice. Although I have no sympathy for the WS winner, I have to agree that adding Ichiro in this fashion is largely unfair. Some markets are immediately out of it. I say put him in the open market and let the ridiculous offers roll in. And another thing, I don't want him to be signed to some ridiculous contract like 2 yrs x $30M. Talk about eliminating some teams. This is the most realistic posting system I've seen in sim leagues. People just have to be prepared and not hand out crazy extensions.
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Post by bravesgm on Jan 16, 2013 9:23:38 GMT -5
Although I have no sympathy for the WS winner, I have to agree that adding Ichiro in this fashion is largely unfair. Some markets are immediately out of it. I say put him in the open market and let the ridiculous offers roll in. And another thing, I don't want him to be signed to some ridiculous contract like 2 yrs x $30M. Talk about eliminating some teams. This is the most realistic posting system I've seen in sim leagues. People just have to be prepared and not hand out crazy extensions. Of course you think it's the most realistic...it's your idea in your league I could break the bank and try to sign him...I've got enough cash to be dumb and make a crazy offer. Can't match some, but I can offer something competitive I'd think.
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Post by Youth Movement on Jan 16, 2013 12:11:04 GMT -5
breaking the fucking bank over here
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Post by Youth Movement on Jan 16, 2013 12:13:26 GMT -5
vladdy/ichiro/milton bradley outfield for the next 10 years
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Post by Youth Movement on Jan 16, 2013 12:19:21 GMT -5
real question since i'm a noob. What's the point/benefit of having cash in the game?
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Post by Youth Movement on Jan 16, 2013 12:19:42 GMT -5
besides being able to bid on ichiro or any other player of course.
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Post by danchevy on Jan 16, 2013 12:48:06 GMT -5
If your not making cash, say you are at salary cap and fan interest isn't high enough, you will lose money every year. Having a bit of cash to fall back in right now is never a bad thing, do you have a bit of wiggle room when it comes to signing free agents.
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Post by Erbes on Jan 16, 2013 13:01:23 GMT -5
And another thing, I don't want him to be signed to some ridiculous contract like 2 yrs x $30M. Talk about eliminating some teams. This is the most realistic posting system I've seen in sim leagues. People just have to be prepared and not hand out crazy extensions. Of course you think it's the most realistic...it's your idea in your league I could break the bank and try to sign him...I've got enough cash to be dumb and make a crazy offer. Can't match some, but I can offer something competitive I'd think. I mean it is though. This is pretty much exactly how it works in real life.
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Post by bravesgm on Jan 16, 2013 13:16:06 GMT -5
Of course you think it's the most realistic...it's your idea in your league I could break the bank and try to sign him...I've got enough cash to be dumb and make a crazy offer. Can't match some, but I can offer something competitive I'd think. I mean it is though. This is pretty much exactly how it works in real life. So we are striving for reality then? I understand your argument completely. If we're going for more realistic, how can we spend money to make players better? Or to reverse injuries? We go for reality in one aspect, but not others? I'm fine either way. I have a feeling that no matter what I'd bid, someone here is going to make a crazy bid to sign him, and then another crazy contract. If my team was younger and I had more players on cheap contracts, I'd be all for it. But with all the stipulations put in (which I like) on Ichiro, I don't want to offer a huge contract for a guy (who'll be about the only one in the league) who can't get a PD or injury reversed should something bad happen.
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Post by Erbes on Jan 16, 2013 13:33:47 GMT -5
I mean it is though. This is pretty much exactly how it works in real life. So we are striving for reality then? I understand your argument completely. If we're going for more realistic, how can we spend money to make players better? Or to reverse injuries? We go for reality in one aspect, but not others? I'm fine either way. I have a feeling that no matter what I'd bid, someone here is going to make a crazy bid to sign him, and then another crazy contract. If my team was younger and I had more players on cheap contracts, I'd be all for it. But with all the stipulations put in (which I like) on Ichiro, I don't want to offer a huge contract for a guy (who'll be about the only one in the league) who can't get a PD or injury reversed should something bad happen. I mean you could make the argument that teams do improve players with money... clinics, extended spring training, etc. But yeah this could go in circles all day.
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Post by Nanz on Jan 16, 2013 13:47:32 GMT -5
i dont get how this works so im not gonna bid lol
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Post by Nanz on Jan 16, 2013 13:47:48 GMT -5
should probably read some posts lolz
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Post by RoyalsGM on Jan 16, 2013 13:50:19 GMT -5
i dont get how this works so im not gonna bid lol You offer a cash bid for the right to negotiate with Ichiro. Then your contract offer is considered among other bids. The best package (Yankees) will be accepted. Then Ichiro will single 160 times a season.
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