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Post by RoyalsGM on Aug 16, 2013 0:15:51 GMT -5
will be cool to see den dekker and lagares together in sept. shouldve been their LF/CF combo the past month, but oh well. den Dekker hasn't hit at all. I doubt he is much of a prospect at this point. I think Lutz deserves a shot in the bigs, but he has no position. I still think the Mets should trade for Tyler Colvin.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 0:19:55 GMT -5
will be cool to see den dekker and lagares together in sept. shouldve been their LF/CF combo the past month, but oh well. den Dekker hasn't hit at all. I doubt he is much of a prospect at this point. I think Lutz deserves a shot in the bigs, but he has no position. I still think the Mets should trade for Tyler Colvin. right, but who are we comparing him to? ey jr, whose skillset doesnt rise above the level of pinch runner. den dekker is the best defensive player in the system including the ML roster, and he at least has above avg power and speed tools for cf
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 0:21:18 GMT -5
like lutz too, think injuries are as much a factor as D
dont know what theyre going to do with flores but i feel like the decision has to come this offseason. really hope they deal him if he's valued, but then again i don't wanna see murph at 2b either. meh.
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Post by Captain America on Aug 16, 2013 0:23:04 GMT -5
I really like Lagares now. If he becomes the Mets' CF of the future, I'm definitely cool with that. he's got talent in the field, the bat? eh? I'd like to see the Mets trade for Cameron Maybin, maybe we get him cheap Noooo I don't like Maybin. He strikes out way too much and just hasn't put it all together yet. And yeah Lagares' bat has improved a lot lately.
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Post by Captain America on Aug 16, 2013 0:23:23 GMT -5
will be cool to see den dekker and lagares together in sept. shouldve been their LF/CF combo the past month, but oh well. den Dekker was hurt and I'm not sold on his bat at all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 0:23:34 GMT -5
maybin's d is insane though. would love him
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Post by Captain America on Aug 16, 2013 0:25:41 GMT -5
1 thing is clear though...Duda needs get traded to the AL in the offseason. At this point, it just has to happen. He's a 1B and he belongs in the AL.
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Post by Captain America on Aug 16, 2013 0:26:52 GMT -5
den Dekker hasn't hit at all. I doubt he is much of a prospect at this point. I think Lutz deserves a shot in the bigs, but he has no position. I still think the Mets should trade for Tyler Colvin. right, but who are we comparing him to? ey jr, whose skillset doesnt rise above the level of pinch runner. den dekker is the best defensive player in the system including the ML roster, and he at least has above avg power and speed tools for cf I actually like EY. He's got speed, which the Mets don't really have anymore with Reyes and Pagan both long gone.
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Post by RoyalsGM on Aug 16, 2013 0:28:12 GMT -5
like lutz too, think injuries are as much a factor as D dont know what theyre going to do with flores but i feel like the decision has to come this offseason. really hope they deal him if he's valued, but then again i don't wanna see murph at 2b either. meh. Mets should trade Murphy to the Royals for Johnny Giavotella and a kicker Dump Kirk, Duda Keep EY JR, Dump Byrd Keep Flores, Trade Ike Davis Add some young AAA relievers My ideal OF next year would be Eric Young Jr. Tyler Colvin Carlos Gomez den Dekker Lagares in no particular order. I'd also like Maybin because I think he's vastly undervalued, even though he's hurt. Then they can platoon Colvin and Lutz at first, try Flores at SS, 2B and OF They would also retain financial flexibility.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 0:30:19 GMT -5
id stash duda. it'd be nice insurance against ike repeating this season. will never understand the negativity towards duda. he's an average first basemen. he's young. other than ike, they don't even have an internal 1b option. it's the organization's fault for sticking him in left, and yeah he's not playable there, but he was and still is the third best bat when he's in the lineup.
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Post by Captain America on Aug 16, 2013 0:31:01 GMT -5
like lutz too, think injuries are as much a factor as D dont know what theyre going to do with flores but i feel like the decision has to come this offseason. really hope they deal him if he's valued, but then again i don't wanna see murph at 2b either. meh. Mets should trade Murphy to the Royals for Johnny Giavotella and a kicker Dump Kirk, Duda Keep EY JR, Dump Byrd Keep Flores, Trade Ike Davis Add some young AAA relievers My ideal OF next year would be Eric Young Jr. Tyler Colvin Carlos Gomez den Dekker Lagares in no particular order. I'd also like Maybin because I think he's vastly undervalued, even though he's hurt. Then they can platoon Colvin and Lutz at first, try Flores at SS, 2B and OF They would also retain financial flexibility. SS is another problem for the Mets. Tejada has had an awful year and Quintanilla obviously isn't a long term solution. If Wright or Flores could play SS regularly, that would be sick. And I don't think the Brewers will be trading Gomez right now.
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Post by RoyalsGM on Aug 16, 2013 0:32:09 GMT -5
id stash duda. it'd be nice insurance against ike repeating this season. will never understand the negativity towards duda. he's an average first basemen. he's young. other than ike, they don't even have an internal 1b option. it's the organization's fault for sticking him in left, and yeah he's not playable there, but he was and still is the third best bat when he's in the lineup. Duda is a slightly better version of Kila Kai'hiue - good eye, can't hit, terrible slumps. If he really had value, he'd be playing somewhere in the majors.
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Post by Captain America on Aug 16, 2013 0:32:33 GMT -5
id stash duda. it'd be nice insurance against ike repeating this season. will never understand the negativity towards duda. he's an average first basemen. he's young. other than ike, they don't even have an internal 1b option. it's the organization's fault for sticking him in left, and yeah he's not playable there, but he was and still is the third best bat when he's in the lineup. If they trade Ike and stick with Duda, that's fine. It's just gonna be tough to find a taker for Ike. I really think Ike can still hit, but the fact of the matter is that he might just be one of those guys that can't play well under pressure. If that's the case, he just needs a change of scenery.
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Post by RoyalsGM on Aug 16, 2013 0:34:52 GMT -5
Those are the types of trades the Mets need to make.
scenery deals.
Davis to Colorado for example, for Colvin +
parts to SD for Maybin (if healthy )
etc
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Post by RoyalsGM on Aug 16, 2013 0:36:33 GMT -5
AND all that really matters in 2014 is
Harvey, Wheeler, Niese, Mejia, Gee
Jack Leathersich
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Post by Captain America on Aug 16, 2013 0:36:55 GMT -5
Those are the types of trades the Mets need to make. scenery deals. Davis to Colorado for example, for Colvin + parts to SD for Maybin (if healthy ) etc I'd do a Davis for Colvin and something else kind of trade.
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Post by Captain America on Aug 16, 2013 0:38:00 GMT -5
AND all that really matters in 2014 is Harvey, Wheeler, Niese, Mejia, Gee Jack Leathersich Syndergaard will be up by midseason next year. Probably same time Wheeler came up 2 months ago. Montero is also part of the future rotation. I'm still not sold on Mejia. I still think he is better off as a reliever. I like Leathersitch though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 0:38:13 GMT -5
like lutz too, think injuries are as much a factor as D dont know what theyre going to do with flores but i feel like the decision has to come this offseason. really hope they deal him if he's valued, but then again i don't wanna see murph at 2b either. meh. Mets should trade Murphy to the Royals for Johnny Giavotella and a kicker Dump Kirk, Duda Keep EY JR, Dump Byrd Keep Flores, Trade Ike Davis Add some young AAA relievers My ideal OF next year would be Eric Young Jr. Tyler Colvin Carlos Gomez den Dekker Lagares in no particular order. I'd also like Maybin because I think he's vastly undervalued, even though he's hurt. Then they can platoon Colvin and Lutz at first, try Flores at SS, 2B and OF They would also retain financial flexibility. disagree completely other than gomez truth is i don't think any of their guys are good options other than lagares, who's only ok. rooting like hell for ike but even as he gets on base like mad you can tell he's not right. he'd get non-tendered, not traded, right? no idea what they'll do with him but flores has such little experience at 1b and they seem to be done with duda, so i'm expecting ike to stay. nowhere to put flores. he doesn't have the bat for first, and i'd like to see them finally put some focus on D anyway. although if it's between him and murph for 2b i guess i prefer flores. i don't see the point in dumping byrd if he's said he'll be a 4th OF. obviously that means he isn't expecting big money, but if he gets offers yeah they shouldn't match. ey jr is just horrible at everything that isn't running. solid walk rate but an awful, awful bat and defender. pooped.
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Post by Captain America on Aug 16, 2013 0:38:50 GMT -5
The future:
Harvey/Syndergaard/Wheeler/Niese/Montero
The pen will include Parnell, Familia, Mejia, Edgin and some other lefty as well
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Post by Captain America on Aug 16, 2013 0:39:47 GMT -5
Mets should trade Murphy to the Royals for Johnny Giavotella and a kicker Dump Kirk, Duda Keep EY JR, Dump Byrd Keep Flores, Trade Ike Davis Add some young AAA relievers My ideal OF next year would be Eric Young Jr. Tyler Colvin Carlos Gomez den Dekker Lagares in no particular order. I'd also like Maybin because I think he's vastly undervalued, even though he's hurt. Then they can platoon Colvin and Lutz at first, try Flores at SS, 2B and OF They would also retain financial flexibility. disagree completely other than gomez truth is i don't think any of their guys are good options other than lagares, who's only ok. rooting like hell for ike but even as he gets on base like mad you can tell he's not right. he'd get non-tendered, not traded, right? no idea what they'll do with him but flores has such little experience at 1b and they seem to be done with duda, so i'm expecting ike to stay. nowhere to put flores. he doesn't have the bat for first, and i'd like to see them finally put some focus on D anyway. although if it's between him and murph for 2b i guess i prefer flores. i don't see the point in dumping byrd if he's said he'll be a 4th OF. obviously that means he isn't expecting big money, but if he gets offers yeah they shouldn't match. ey jr is just horrible at everything that isn't running. solid walk rate but an awful, awful bat and defender. pooped. Byrd signed an MLC...he will be a free agent by November.
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Post by RoyalsGM on Aug 16, 2013 0:39:52 GMT -5
Mets should trade Murphy to the Royals for Johnny Giavotella and a kicker Dump Kirk, Duda Keep EY JR, Dump Byrd Keep Flores, Trade Ike Davis Add some young AAA relievers My ideal OF next year would be Eric Young Jr. Tyler Colvin Carlos Gomez den Dekker Lagares in no particular order. I'd also like Maybin because I think he's vastly undervalued, even though he's hurt. Then they can platoon Colvin and Lutz at first, try Flores at SS, 2B and OF They would also retain financial flexibility. disagree completely other than gomez truth is i don't think any of their guys are good options other than lagares, who's only ok. rooting like hell for ike but even as he gets on base like mad you can tell he's not right. he'd get non-tendered, not traded, right? no idea what they'll do with him but flores has such little experience at 1b and they seem to be done with duda, so i'm expecting ike to stay. nowhere to put flores. he doesn't have the bat for first, and i'd like to see them finally put some focus on D anyway. although if it's between him and murph for 2b i guess i prefer flores. i don't see the point in dumping byrd if he's said he'll be a 4th OF. obviously that means he isn't expecting big money, but if he gets offers yeah they shouldn't match. ey jr is just horrible at everything that isn't running. solid walk rate but an awful, awful bat and defender. pooped. Wilmer Flores IS a hitter, that's all he's ever done. Hit everywhere
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 0:41:23 GMT -5
i love mejia. with that slider i really don't see why he's not back to mid-rotation SP status. obviously the elbow surgery this offseason matters a lot, but the slider is a game changer. probably the second best pitch on the team right now.
mets pitching is a beautiful thing tbh
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 0:41:57 GMT -5
he didnt hit in 10 or 11, and he hasnt really hit enough to be anything special at 1b. 2b, yeah definitely.
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Post by Captain America on Aug 16, 2013 0:42:12 GMT -5
disagree completely other than gomez truth is i don't think any of their guys are good options other than lagares, who's only ok. rooting like hell for ike but even as he gets on base like mad you can tell he's not right. he'd get non-tendered, not traded, right? no idea what they'll do with him but flores has such little experience at 1b and they seem to be done with duda, so i'm expecting ike to stay. nowhere to put flores. he doesn't have the bat for first, and i'd like to see them finally put some focus on D anyway. although if it's between him and murph for 2b i guess i prefer flores. i don't see the point in dumping byrd if he's said he'll be a 4th OF. obviously that means he isn't expecting big money, but if he gets offers yeah they shouldn't match. ey jr is just horrible at everything that isn't running. solid walk rate but an awful, awful bat and defender. pooped. Wilmer Flores IS a hitter, that's all he's ever done. Hit everywhere And that's the problem with quite a few Mets... Flores, Murph, Duda, Valdespin... the list goes on What do they all have in common? They got into the bigs with their bats, their defense has never been particularly good, they've all played more or less out of position just to get their bats in the lineup, and yet their hitting hasn't always lived up to expectations. It's sad, but true.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 0:43:45 GMT -5
imo get stanton and ellsbury. that should be easy, yeah?
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