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BOS/COL
May 3, 2013 14:14:03 GMT -5
Post by Saitama on May 3, 2013 14:14:03 GMT -5
Boston Sends: MR Alan Embree
Colorado Sends: RF Jason Repko SP Nate Robertson
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BOS/COL
May 3, 2013 14:22:53 GMT -5
Post by Captain America on May 3, 2013 14:22:53 GMT -5
Confirmed. Thanks.
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BOS/COL
May 3, 2013 14:24:25 GMT -5
Post by Captain America on May 3, 2013 14:24:25 GMT -5
Please call up Embree to the major league roster and place him between Steve Reed and Tony Castillo on my bullpen list. Thanks!
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BOS/COL
May 4, 2013 16:36:28 GMT -5
Post by Erbes on May 4, 2013 16:36:28 GMT -5
Trade in. Counts for frenzy.
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BOS/COL
May 4, 2013 17:11:56 GMT -5
Post by Ashes on May 4, 2013 17:11:56 GMT -5
What in the fuck
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BOS/COL
May 4, 2013 17:12:55 GMT -5
Post by Broph on May 4, 2013 17:12:55 GMT -5
At least he is consistent....oh wait
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BOS/COL
May 4, 2013 17:22:34 GMT -5
Post by Ashes on May 4, 2013 17:22:34 GMT -5
Nah this is bullshit, Embree has pitched 12 innings, Springer may have a lower ERA but has A duration, can spot start, good ratings, great clutch
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BOS/COL
May 4, 2013 17:23:09 GMT -5
Post by Broph on May 4, 2013 17:23:09 GMT -5
lol Im with you...
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BOS/COL
May 4, 2013 17:23:34 GMT -5
Post by Ashes on May 4, 2013 17:23:34 GMT -5
I know
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BOS/COL
May 4, 2013 17:23:50 GMT -5
Post by Ashes on May 4, 2013 17:23:50 GMT -5
I'm saying it's bullshit
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BOS/COL
May 4, 2013 17:24:17 GMT -5
Post by Saitama on May 4, 2013 17:24:17 GMT -5
Lol embree could set up for a lot of teams
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May 4, 2013 17:24:47 GMT -5
Post by Ashes on May 4, 2013 17:24:47 GMT -5
Lol embree could set up for a lot of teams If Springer isn't a frenzy deal, this isn't either. Ridiculous
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BOS/COL
May 4, 2013 17:27:16 GMT -5
Post by Saitama on May 4, 2013 17:27:16 GMT -5
He didn't count the ellis deal style down
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May 4, 2013 17:36:31 GMT -5
Post by Ashes on May 4, 2013 17:36:31 GMT -5
Uh, because you made like 8 trades with the same team, that actually makes sense since you could've combined them. I made one trade with COL.
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May 4, 2013 22:16:55 GMT -5
Post by Erbes on May 4, 2013 22:16:55 GMT -5
Trade in. Counts for frenzy.
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Post by Ashes on May 4, 2013 22:30:50 GMT -5
Nah this is bullshit, Embree has pitched 12 innings, Springer may have a lower ERA but has A duration, can spot start, good ratings, great clutch
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Post by Ashes on May 4, 2013 22:35:54 GMT -5
I told everyone that reliever (no matter how good they are) for shitty prospects or picks would not count and yet you guys continue to bitch. It's unreal. Either this does not count or mine does. Are you being serious right now
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Post by Saitama on May 5, 2013 0:17:16 GMT -5
HE COUNTED THIS ONE INSTEAD OF THE BURKS ONE. ITS NOT HARD LOGIC TO FOLLOW.
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Post by Ashes on May 5, 2013 2:50:06 GMT -5
HE COUNTED THIS ONE INSTEAD OF THE BURKS ONE. ITS NOT HARD LOGIC TO FOLLOW. Yeah fucking right. You want to talk logic? So let me get this straight, what you're saying is erbes looked at both deals, decided to count the fucking one with Alan Embree, posting in it 20 minutes prior to processing the Burks trade, then decided to deny the Burks one. All this is more logical than erbes following the chain of WHEN THEY WERE POSTED and processing this one first, counting it for frenzy, THEN 20 minutes later when he gets to the Burks deal decides to not allow it because it was a deal between two teams that already made a deal that he processed 20 minutes prior that he decided to count towards frenzy? If I have this right, you're saying it is logical to assume erbes decided to count a deal towards frenzy that was clearly a lower profile deal and completely contradictory to his "no reliever" frenzy policy? Yeah, I'm sure. Excellent logic.
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Post by Ashes on May 5, 2013 3:03:09 GMT -5
If erbes was really practicing what he preached he would have never counted this in the first place, but let's examine the order of things.
The Embree deal was posted first, then the Springer deal, and finally the Burks deal. This is exactly what erbes did:
Gets on to process deals. Processes Embree deal, as it was first to be posted, therefore further down the list. Declares Embree a frenzy deal. Next comes the Springer deal, again with Colorado. Fresh on his mind, erbes notices Colorado dealing for a second MR. Arbitrarily decides this deal does not count towards frenzy. Not because of his "reliever frenzy policy" but because he sees Colorado picking up another MR and doesn't want to credit him twice for that, even though it is completely contradictory. Finally, he gets to the Burks deal. He was right. Clearly the deal could've been combined, no reason to give teams multiple frenzy counts for dealing with each other more than once in separate transactions.
However, that is why erbes is wrong. He was not following some guideline, he was deciding on the go. That much is clear. I'm all fine for not counting MR deals in the future, but based on what happened here my Springer deal needs to be counted.
Making the Burks deal count over this Embree deal is just retroactively changing what really happened.
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Post by Free Stutter! on May 5, 2013 3:19:54 GMT -5
Russ Springer has played a shitload this season, so I wouldn't consider this shit non-frenzy worthy
34 games played and 58.1 innings pitched.
No clue how that trade is being ignore. I could totally see where Erbes is coming from if it was a guy who only played 12 innings or so this season. But Springer is a legit MR with A duration. The Rockies can use all the arms they can get, with that sorry excuse of a starting pitching staff that they have.
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Post by Free Stutter! on May 5, 2013 3:20:17 GMT -5
I'm not bitching....Just stating my opinion. So don't take it in a negative way.
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Post by Free Stutter! on May 5, 2013 3:21:32 GMT -5
Springer could even start and help out the garbage ass Rockies.
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Post by Saitama on May 5, 2013 5:48:25 GMT -5
So our only argument is I gave him the benefit of the doubt.you probably know better.
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Post by Ashes on May 5, 2013 10:15:15 GMT -5
So our only argument is I gave him the benefit of the doubt.you probably know better. Yeah I know what you are saying, but if that were the case he should have said that when processed the first trade. I just find it highly unlikely considering his "stance" on MRs why he'd choose that one.
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