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Post by Erbes on Aug 12, 2015 12:42:26 GMT -5
I like the idea of helping sucky teams. I do think we're at the point where the rich are only going to continue to get richer. I'll get the ball rolling here with a couple of ideas.
1. Quasi Profit Sharing
So the one thing I don't want to do is penalize good teams for being good, both winning and financially-wise. So this isn't going to be a luxury tax or anything.
We'll start with a pot of board cash. $20m, $30m, whatever we decide. We then take the bottom 5 teams or any teams under 'x' amount of wins. Add up their win totals, then divide their individual win total by the aggregate to get a percentage. Then apply that percentage to the pot of board cash and that's how much that team would receive - just for losing.
Obviously teams who incur tanking rule penalties would be excluded. Need to play by the rules to get the benefit.
Maybe the pool of money is determined based each year by RNG at the end of the season. 10-30m or something. That way teams don't tank just for the cash.
This would help teams improve their players.
2. Compensation Cash
I don't like doing compensation picks. It could get messy really quickly. Instead how about compensation board cash for players you lose? This would obviously affect every team, but it would be nice for small market teams who can't afford those $20m contracts to get some cash to improve their other players.
I just have no idea how we determine type A, type B, type C, or whatever. Right now I'm leaning towards me just saying who is what, but I would be open to having a committee.
There would have to be a rule where if you don't resign the guy during the season, but you do during FA then you give the cash back.
I don't think there should be a requirement to offer an extension for a guy. If you want the cash over the player then so be it.
Yeah so a couple ideas to get things started. Any others? Try to expand on your idea when you post and don't just post one sentence. That's useless.
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Post by Broph on Aug 12, 2015 14:58:57 GMT -5
go purely by stats, and the team signing has to give the cash
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Post by Free Stutter! on Aug 12, 2015 15:15:17 GMT -5
comp picks
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Post by Erbes on Aug 12, 2015 15:16:10 GMT -5
Hesitant to make signing team pay because I know somebody won't have the cash and then we end up having to do a board bid for the player and that's just annoying. Would rather just give the cash.
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Post by Broph on Aug 12, 2015 16:13:50 GMT -5
Hesitant to make signing team pay because I know somebody won't have the cash and then we end up having to do a board bid for the player and that's just annoying. Would rather just give the cash. let this be a case where you dont have to have the board cash, the only negative situation allowed, and you cant spend til positive |
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Post by brianh on Aug 12, 2015 16:42:46 GMT -5
So the one thing I don't want to do is penalize good teams for being good, both winning and financially-wise. So this isn't going to be a luxury tax or anything. Well you reward them for being good, so why the double standard? The best way to pile up the board cash is to have a good team. just sayin  Mind you I don't really mind one way or another, just happened to notice that as I was analyzing some stuff, in familiarizing myself with the league. |
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Post by Erbes on Aug 12, 2015 16:48:23 GMT -5
That's pretty much the point. Encourages teams to be competitive and make moves to win.
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Post by brianh on Aug 12, 2015 20:29:57 GMT -5
right, but what that does is make it that much harder for a bad team to compete. The good team already has the good players and then they are getting cash to make their bad players better.
Also the game has this mechanic of some of the best players only willing to play for winning teams, the bad teams don't have the money coming in to compete with contracts, etc.
Just saying that the current system is set up to keep the wealthy wealthy, and the poor, poor.
As previously just taking part in a philosophical debate, nothing more. I like my chances of making my team into one that can compete.
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Post by Erbes on Aug 13, 2015 7:35:38 GMT -5
Thats a pretty narrow view of how to build a team. Draft and trades offer wayyyyy more value than free agency.
And winning is a small part of it. Money rules all in this game.
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Post by stooolfan on Aug 13, 2015 7:41:20 GMT -5
I like the compensation. It was frustrating only generating 84 mil with 97 fan interest and going to the World Series.
Picks or cash for losing players.
Make a comity to decide what type of player
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Post by Birdie Sanders on Aug 13, 2015 18:19:40 GMT -5
I've been struggling for 2 decades tryin to keep this franchise above water, now you wanna do this???
Smfh
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Post by Spencer on Aug 13, 2015 18:32:04 GMT -5
Revenue sharing of cash lost from luxury taxes.
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Post by Free Stutter! on Aug 13, 2015 23:06:15 GMT -5
mehh...I tossed out so many ideas for small market teams over the years, only to have them ignored.
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Post by steve on Aug 14, 2015 0:17:21 GMT -5
mehh...I tossed out so many ideas for small market teams over the years, only to have them ignored. +1 always loved play's ideas |
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Post by Steve on Aug 17, 2015 19:13:08 GMT -5
My market sucks, and I have won year in and year out. No need for this.
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Post by Birdie Sanders on Aug 17, 2015 22:06:36 GMT -5
2 decades later...
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Post by Saitama on Aug 18, 2015 10:45:51 GMT -5
My market sucks, and I have won year in and year out. No need for this. By being a serial rapist lmao |
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Post by Steve on Aug 18, 2015 11:22:52 GMT -5
My market sucks, and I have won year in and year out. No need for this. By being a serial rapist lmao So what Not sure how that's funny too |
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Post by Steve on Aug 18, 2015 11:23:01 GMT -5
Huh? This comment makes zero sense |
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Post by Saitama on Aug 18, 2015 11:39:40 GMT -5
By being a serial rapist lmao So what Not sure how that's funny too You're only not complaining about market because you've profited off it. |
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Post by Steve on Aug 18, 2015 11:50:49 GMT -5
So what Not sure how that's funny too You're only not complaining about market because you've profited off it. Wat |
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Post by Birdie Sanders on Aug 18, 2015 12:22:53 GMT -5
Huh? This comment makes zero sense Stfu.... I coulda used this 2 decades ago... |
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Post by Steve on Aug 18, 2015 12:23:39 GMT -5
Huh? This comment makes zero sense Stfu.... I coulda used this 2 decades ago... Me and you both |
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Post by stooolfan on Aug 18, 2015 12:27:06 GMT -5
I just dont like only getting 85 mil revenue with 100 FI
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Post by Steve on Aug 18, 2015 12:29:10 GMT -5
I just dont like only getting 85 mil revenue with 100 FI Same. I max out at around $87M each year I'm at 100 FI and I'm winning around 110 games a year over the past 5 seasons. It's ridiculous. |
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