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Post by Broph on Apr 22, 2014 13:44:39 GMT -5
Lebron or Durant at 23 .... Go !!!! not even a question, Lebron
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Post by Bro Namath on Apr 22, 2014 13:45:55 GMT -5
yea but thats neither here nor there. yup if blake is so bad in post how does he score without cp3? being not as good as Aldridge in the post at all, does not mean completely useless. He is ridiculously athletic, he has post moves, just nowhere near the repertoire Aldridge does, nor the footwork. He makes up for this with crazy athleticism and quickness though he is just as effective though who cares what it looks like?
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Post by Broph on Apr 22, 2014 13:46:22 GMT -5
being not as good as Aldridge in the post at all, does not mean completely useless. He is ridiculously athletic, he has post moves, just nowhere near the repertoire Aldridge does, nor the footwork. He makes up for this with crazy athleticism and quickness though he is just as effective though who cares what it looks like? smh, the argument was about his post scoring ability no? and overall offensive moveset?
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Post by Bro Namath on Apr 22, 2014 13:46:19 GMT -5
and he is 3 years younger. once griffin polishes up his post game its over
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Post by Bro Namath on Apr 22, 2014 13:47:03 GMT -5
he is just as effective though who cares what it looks like? smh, the argument was about his post scoring ability no? and overall offensive moveset? the argument started with darell saying griffin wasnt even close to lma offensively then when u came in he just started piggy backing your stuff
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Post by Broph on Apr 22, 2014 13:47:35 GMT -5
would you call Dwight a good post player at any point in his career, no right? well, he still scored a bunch, he just doesnt have a developed set of post moves, Blake kinda has the same deal, it makes his ceiling scary though
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Post by Darell on Apr 22, 2014 13:48:13 GMT -5
You don't just learn how to be dominant in the post...see Howard, Dwight
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Post by Bro Namath on Apr 22, 2014 13:48:40 GMT -5
good example. if it was all about athleticism why isnt dwight close to griffin offensively?
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Post by Bro Namath on Apr 22, 2014 13:48:59 GMT -5
awful comparison
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Post by Broph on Apr 22, 2014 13:51:37 GMT -5
good example. if it was all about athleticism why isnt dwight close to griffin offensively? umm, Dwight isnt nearly as athletic as Blake anymore, and... 2008-09 ★ 23 ORL NBA C 79 79 2821 7.1 12.5 .572 0.0 0.0 .000 7.1 12.5 .573 6.4 10.8 .594 4.3 9.7 13.9 1.4 1.0 2.9 3.1 3.4 20.7 2010-11 ★ 25 ORL NBA C 78 78 2935 7.6 12.8 .593 0.0 0.1 .000 7.6 12.7 .597 6.7 11.2 .596 3.8 9.7 13.5 1.3 1.3 2.3 3.4 3.2 21.9
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Post by Bro Namath on Apr 22, 2014 13:52:53 GMT -5
why did you say anymore then post stats from when he was lol?
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Post by Bro Namath on Apr 22, 2014 13:53:42 GMT -5
and griffin just avg 24 in a offense that doesnt run through him. pretty impressive
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Post by Darell on Apr 22, 2014 13:55:00 GMT -5
smh, the argument was about his post scoring ability no? and overall offensive moveset? the argument started with darell saying griffin wasnt even close to lma offensively then when u came in he just started piggy backing your stuff Umm ok...
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Post by Darell on Apr 22, 2014 13:56:05 GMT -5
good example. if it was all about athleticism why isnt dwight close to griffin offensively? Dwight isn't the same athletically anymore
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Post by Broph on Apr 22, 2014 14:04:05 GMT -5
why did you say anymore then post stats from when he was lol? because offensively those numbers, from when he was as athletic, are entirely comparable to Blakes
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Post by Bro Namath on Apr 22, 2014 14:04:14 GMT -5
ok still terrible comparison. before this season sure but griffin has taken his offensive game to the next level this season
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Post by Bro Namath on Apr 22, 2014 14:04:48 GMT -5
why did you say anymore then post stats from when he was lol? because offensively those numbers, from when he was as athletic, are entirely comparable to Blakes 21.9 with the offense running through you<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<24.1 offense running through someone else
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Post by Broph on Apr 22, 2014 14:06:55 GMT -5
and griffin just avg 24 in a offense that doesnt run through him. pretty impressive The offense is run by CP3, it flows through him, just like for the Suns it flowed through Nash...this does not mean that somebody else doesnt get the primary number of looks, it just means the engine behind the offense creating most of the opportunities is not the same guy getting all the shots. Griffin had a massive Usage Percentage this year, but CP3 drives the offense, very few guys that can create havoc in the lane, midrange with that kind of passing ability
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Post by Broph on Apr 22, 2014 14:11:05 GMT -5
The primary offense for the Clippers is to put the ball in CP3's hands, let him see what develops off of motion and screens. Blazer possessions typically involve get the ball to Aldridge, on a pick and pop, or on the block, and let him work, see what develops off that, while running a lot of motion and off ball screens.
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Post by Bro Namath on Apr 22, 2014 14:17:41 GMT -5
explain the offense being better when it was running through griffin
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Post by Bro Namath on Apr 22, 2014 14:18:12 GMT -5
more efficient at least. cp3 dribbles too much a lot of times
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Post by Broph on Apr 22, 2014 14:21:57 GMT -5
more efficient at least. cp3 dribbles too much a lot of times explain the offense being better while Paul is on the court vs. when Griffin is on the court (which means the offense is more efficient without Blake than without Paul)
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Post by Bro Namath on Apr 22, 2014 14:26:02 GMT -5
where do u see that lol
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Post by Broph on Apr 22, 2014 14:59:54 GMT -5
With CP3 on the court, the Clippers scored 1.15 points per possesion, with Blake on the court, they scored 1.14....considering any time they shared would be duplicated, the offense was clearly better when Cp3 was on the court, than when Blake was. Also CP3 had a massively better Orating than either of the other two.
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Post by Bro Namath on Apr 22, 2014 15:14:21 GMT -5
ok what about when cp3 was out
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