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Post by steve on Apr 29, 2013 20:58:47 GMT -5
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Post by bravesgm on Apr 29, 2013 21:00:03 GMT -5
My top SP is Maddux, Cordova is currently my 4/5 ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Really just proving my point here No, you said my top SP wasn't worth much. I was pointing out Maddux was my top SP, not Cordova. With the board cash I got to help out, I increase some of his stats. His endurance I fix in the off-season, then possibly spend more next season then he's up to hopefully a C duration. I'll take that for a couple of shitty firsts, a boatload of cash (of which I actually have more coming from that deal) and some board cash on top. Oh, and I got another SP, while old, who's having a pretty good year...well he was until his last 2 starts.
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Post by Ashes on Apr 29, 2013 21:07:19 GMT -5
Really just proving my point here No, you said my top SP wasn't worth much. I was pointing out Maddux was my top SP, not Cordova. With the board cash I got to help out, I increase some of his stats. His endurance I fix in the off-season, then possibly spend more next season then he's up to hopefully a C duration. I'll take that for a couple of shitty firsts, a boatload of cash (of which I actually have more coming from that deal) and some board cash on top. Oh, and I got another SP, while old, who's having a pretty good year...well he was until his last 2 starts. What are you even arguing here? First of all, you said "for a Top SP" so we are talking about Cordova here, who last time I checked is now one of your pitchers, that's why I said "your Top SP" because my sentence wouldn't make any fucking sense if I said "a Top SP." Never once did I mean Cordova was your BEST pitcher, because he isn't, and he isn't your most valuable either. Second of all, fixing his endurance ups his value, that's what I fucking said. And of course you'll take that for some shitty firsts, uh what the fuck was that even supposed to mean? Do you somehow think I felt you got the worse end of the deal for Cordova? Weird.
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Post by Broph on Apr 29, 2013 21:08:12 GMT -5
No, you said my top SP wasn't worth much. I was pointing out Maddux was my top SP, not Cordova. With the board cash I got to help out, I increase some of his stats. His endurance I fix in the off-season, then possibly spend more next season then he's up to hopefully a C duration. I'll take that for a couple of shitty firsts, a boatload of cash (of which I actually have more coming from that deal) and some board cash on top. Oh, and I got another SP, while old, who's having a pretty good year...well he was until his last 2 starts. What are you even arguing here? First of all, you said "for a Top SP" so we are talking about Cordova here, who last time I checked is now one of your pitchers, that's why I said "your Top SP" because my sentence wouldn't make any fucking sense if I said "a Top SP." Never once did I mean Cordova was your BEST pitcher, because he isn't, and he isn't your most valuable either. Second of all, fixing his endurance ups his value, that's what I fucking said. And of course you'll take that for some shitty firsts, uh what the fuck was that even supposed to mean? Do you somehow think I felt you got the worse end of the deal for Cordova? Weird. never intended for you to get offended about Dye...but HAH HE IMPROVED, YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN HE WOULD WTF ARENT YOU PSYCHIC
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Post by Broph on Apr 29, 2013 21:08:58 GMT -5
please, remove Pavanos shitty ass from your list if he did in fact make it
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Post by Broph on Apr 29, 2013 21:22:15 GMT -5
lol wiat, he wanted Bichette on this list? that .762 OPS on the road is far more indicitive of his talent
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Post by Ashes on Apr 29, 2013 21:22:42 GMT -5
He made it, but yeah he seems to be struggling
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Post by Ashes on Apr 29, 2013 21:23:31 GMT -5
lol wiat, he wanted Bichette on this list? that .762 OPS on the road is far more indicitive of his talent only guy that makes it is Walker, and that's because he'd probably be very good on other teams, but not godmode like he is in colorado
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Post by Broph on Apr 29, 2013 21:23:33 GMT -5
He made it, but yeah he seems to be struggling I need to IR him til August each year...did the same thing last year, great first two or three months...then disappeared....guess I have to put him on a heavy pitch count...90 or so
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Post by Captain America on Apr 29, 2013 21:25:12 GMT -5
lol wiat, he wanted Bichette on this list? that .762 OPS on the road is far more indicitive of his talent Nah I never thought Bichette was worthy, but I still think Castilla is.
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Post by Broph on Apr 29, 2013 21:25:25 GMT -5
think I may move Karsay outta the pen and run a five man rotation...
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Post by bravesgm on Apr 29, 2013 21:25:37 GMT -5
No, you said my top SP wasn't worth much. I was pointing out Maddux was my top SP, not Cordova. With the board cash I got to help out, I increase some of his stats. His endurance I fix in the off-season, then possibly spend more next season then he's up to hopefully a C duration. I'll take that for a couple of shitty firsts, a boatload of cash (of which I actually have more coming from that deal) and some board cash on top. Oh, and I got another SP, while old, who's having a pretty good year...well he was until his last 2 starts. What are you even arguing here? First of all, you said "for a Top SP" so we are talking about Cordova here, who last time I checked is now one of your pitchers, that's why I said "your Top SP" because my sentence wouldn't make any fucking sense if I said "a Top SP." Never once did I mean Cordova was your BEST pitcher, because he isn't, and he isn't your most valuable either. Second of all, fixing his endurance ups his value, that's what I fucking said. And of course you'll take that for some shitty firsts, uh what the fuck was that even supposed to mean? Do you somehow think I felt you got the worse end of the deal for Cordova? Weird. I'm not sure what I was arguing...just having fun arguing I guess. Do I think Cordova should be on your list? Maybe on this one, but I could agree if he wasn't any higher. That's if he was on my team or not. Career ERA under 3, career WHIP under 1 (or very close to that) is top, even if he is only going 5-6 innings per night. But hey, it's your list, not mine ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Captain America on Apr 29, 2013 21:26:00 GMT -5
lol wiat, he wanted Bichette on this list? that .762 OPS on the road is far more indicitive of his talent only guy that makes it is Walker, and that's because he'd probably be very good on other teams, but not godmode like he is in colorado And what about Eric Young, the best leadoff hitter around? Tisk tisk.
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Post by Broph on Apr 29, 2013 21:26:15 GMT -5
lol wiat, he wanted Bichette on this list? that .762 OPS on the road is far more indicitive of his talent Nah I never thought Bichette was worthy, but I still think Castilla is. woops, I meant Castilla, he is the one with the .762 Road OPS he is nowhere near worthy, I could put Magadan in Coors and hed do .850
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Post by Broph on Apr 29, 2013 21:27:12 GMT -5
Cordovas big issue right now is he taxes your bullpen.
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Post by Ashes on Apr 29, 2013 21:29:57 GMT -5
That's what I'm saying, these E Duration pitchers are putting up good numbers in their small amount of work, but they hurt your bullpen, cost you games (IE your bullpen costs you the game) etc
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Post by Ashes on Apr 29, 2013 21:30:45 GMT -5
only guy that makes it is Walker, and that's because he'd probably be very good on other teams, but not godmode like he is in colorado And what about Eric Young, the best leadoff hitter around? Tisk tisk. Yeah you're whole lineup is top 75 value ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by Captain America on Apr 29, 2013 21:31:15 GMT -5
Nah I never thought Bichette was worthy, but I still think Castilla is. woops, I meant Castilla, he is the one with the .762 Road OPS he is nowhere near worthy, I could put Magadan in Coors and hed do .850 Yeah I dunno he could be just not hitting as well on the road, but it would be interesting to see the HR and RBI numbers of other players at Coors.
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Post by Ashes on Apr 29, 2013 21:31:16 GMT -5
I wouldn't trade any of my top prospects for anyone in Colorado
I'd think about Walker's old ass
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Post by bravesgm on Apr 29, 2013 21:31:35 GMT -5
Cordovas big issue right now is he taxes your bullpen. Except for 1 game, he's gone 6 innings in every game he's started for me. I've got Maddux(A), Appier (B), Portugal (D), Avery (B) before Cordova. My bullpen currently has 4 guys who could be starters on other teams, so using them every 5th day (maybe some in between with Portugal's D duration) is perfectly fine for me.
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Post by Captain America on Apr 29, 2013 21:31:44 GMT -5
And what about Eric Young, the best leadoff hitter around? Tisk tisk. Yeah you're whole lineup is top 75 value ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Nope. But is there a better leadoff hitter than him? I don't think so...
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Post by Ashes on Apr 29, 2013 21:31:58 GMT -5
It's like, any of these damn hitters on this list would be putting up ridiculous numbers at Coors. They are better players.
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Post by Captain America on Apr 29, 2013 21:32:45 GMT -5
I wouldn't trade any of my top prospects for anyone in Colorado I'd think about Walker's old ass I could understand that. And 32 isn't old. 35+ is old. 32-34 is more or less "aging". But old per se is 35+ IMO...
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Post by Broph on Apr 29, 2013 21:32:57 GMT -5
Yeah you're whole lineup is top 75 value ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Nope. But is there a better leadoff hitter than him? I don't think so... lol yes, Carl Everett says hi
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Post by Ashes on Apr 29, 2013 21:33:31 GMT -5
Yeah you're whole lineup is top 75 value ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Nope. But is there a better leadoff hitter than him? I don't think so... Chipper Jones is better. Just because guys don't have the steals, doesn't mean they aren't better players, or more valuable lol
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